The Official Forum

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)
-   Basketball (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/)
-   -   Thanks ... (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/90403-thanks.html)

BillyMac Tue Apr 03, 2012 04:49pm

Thanks ...
 
AllPurposeGamer: Thanks for posting all the videos during the tournament. They really contributed a new dimension to our Forum "debates" this year.

I'm a little curious about how you posted them. I don't need all the "geeky" electronic details, just a quick, simple, description of how they got from your television set, got "cut down" to the exact play we needed to see, and then got posted on the Forum.

Toren Tue Apr 03, 2012 05:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by billymac (Post 835647)
allpurposegamer: Thanks for posting all the videos during the tournament. They really contributed a new dimension to our forum "debates" this year.

+1

APG Tue Apr 03, 2012 06:06pm

It was a pleasure.

I actually streamed all the games from the NCAA March Madness in demand (next year, I might mess around with getting a capture card to capture from the TV and see how the quality ends up...). I then used a capture program to capture whatever portion someone requested. Next used an editing program to make the clip (cut out irrelevant parts, add slow motion portion, etc). From there, it's just a matter of uploading it to YouTube.

grunewar Tue Apr 03, 2012 06:09pm

That's it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 835657)
It was a pleasure.

I actually streamed all the games from the NCAA March Madness in demand (next year, I might mess around with getting a capture card to capture from the TV and see how the quality ends up...). I then used a capture program to capture whatever portion someone requested. Next used an editing program to make the clip (cut out irrelevant parts, add slow motion portion, etc). From there, it's just a matter of uploading it to YouTube.

I liked the s l o w m o stuff! Thanks!

BillyMac Tue Apr 03, 2012 07:23pm

Down By The Old Mill Stream ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 835657)
I actually streamed all the games from the NCAA March Madness in demand (next year, I might mess around with getting a capture card to capture from the TV and see how the quality ends up). I then used a capture program to capture whatever portion someone requested. Next used an editing program to make the clip (cut out irrelevant parts, add slow motion portion, etc). From there, it's just a matter of uploading it to YouTube.

How about an answer in English?

Thank God somebody understands this stuff, because I don't, so I often have to rely on the kindness of strangers. To give you an example of how computer illiterate I am, my hard drive failed last week, and I ended up buying a new computer. I had a "backup" on an external hard drive. I actually paid the Staples kid, who just barely started shaving, to transfer my "stuff" from my external hard drive to my new computer. I'm embarrassed to tell you how much I paid him.

JRutledge Tue Apr 03, 2012 07:43pm

I have to echo this. I used the videos for my association and my new official's class. These are a much better way to make a point or to have debate. Video is the main way to go and thanks from someone that loves these videos much more than what we use them here for.

Peace

truerookie Wed Apr 04, 2012 08:19am

APG, Billy is correct. It did provide for some interesting debate and video don't lie. Thanks. Job well done!!!!

bainsey Wed Apr 04, 2012 09:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 835664)
How about an answer in English?

Don't listen to him, APG, I understood it completely. What capture program did you use? And, aren't you concerned about breaking copyright violations on YouTube? (I've been busted for that myself, though it was years ago.)

And I heartily thank you as well.

Welpe Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 835664)
How about an answer in English?

He used something in his all in one abbacus / slide rule device that allowed him to replicate a section of a talkie and then placed it here on a virtual bulletin board for all of us to view and discuss.

APG Wed Apr 04, 2012 01:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 835703)
Don't listen to him, APG, I understood it completely. What capture program did you use? And, aren't you concerned about breaking copyright violations on YouTube? (I've been busted for that myself, though it was years ago.)

And I heartily thank you as well.

I used a trial version of Replay Video Capture 5 (which limited captures to 2 minutes per clip).

As far as violations go, I actually had more issues last year and technically had my account closed down due to having "three strikes" for copyright claims, but I submitted counterclaims claiming fair use and got the clips restored and the strikes removed.

From what I've been able to find, since the clips are non commercial, educational, only use the portion of material that is needed, and since the clips are changed up for the most part (cutting and splicing the different angles shown of the play, 1/2 speed slow motion, etc), then fair use can be claimed.

tomegun Wed Apr 04, 2012 02:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 835670)
I used the videos for my association and my new official's class.

I don't want to hijack the thread, but this is something I would like everyone's opinion on.

Do you think videos like this, or of pro plays, are appropriate for high school meetings? I think basketball plays have worth no matter what level, but let's just say I have to be very careful about the plays I use during our high school meetings. Some people feel like it is "big timing" to use clips from a higher level.

APG Wed Apr 04, 2012 02:19pm

How is it big timing it (I know, not your words)? Basketball is basketball...just because a certain level handles a play differently doesn't mean one can't use a clip and apply whatever standards are dictated for a level of play.

And the benefit I find in using plays from NCAA and NBA games is that we're afforded multiple angles to see plays...all in HD. There's only so much one can see and tell from the usual view we get at the high school level.

tref Wed Apr 04, 2012 02:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 835750)
I don't want to hijack the thread, but this is something I would like everyone's opinion on.

Do you think videos like this, or of pro plays, are appropriate for high school meetings? I think basketball plays have worth no matter what level, but let's just say I have to be very careful about the plays I use during our high school meetings. Some people feel like it is "big timing" to use clips from a higher level.

Oh my, as long as the rims are 10' & they shoot FTs from the 15' mark & both teams have 5 players on the court... basketball is basketball.

If they were learning to bake a cake & had the opportunity, I wonder would they seek out the neighborhood lady (local) or Sara Lee (worldwide).

tomegun Wed Apr 04, 2012 02:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 835753)
How is it big timing it (I know, not your words)? Basketball is basketball...just because a certain level handles a play differently doesn't mean one can't use a clip and apply whatever standards are dictated for a level of play.

And the benefit I find in using plays from NCAA and NBA games is that we're afforded multiple angles to see plays...all in HD. There's only so much one can see and tell from the usual view we get at the high school level.

I agree with this 100% and this is why I used them.

berserkBBK Wed Apr 04, 2012 03:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 835750)
I don't want to hijack the thread, but this is something I would like everyone's opinion on.

Do you think videos like this, or of pro plays, are appropriate for high school meetings? I think basketball plays have worth no matter what level, but let's just say I have to be very careful about the plays I use during our high school meetings. Some people feel like it is "big timing" to use clips from a higher level.

For violations this is really helpful to show visual learners or just to be able to have a discussion on the finer points of the rule.

As for fouls and judgement calls...
Couldn't you just show the clip and say that you want this play called a certain way? I wish that each of my assigners/conferences/leagues would tell me how they would want plays called instead of just hearing "We call it tight" or "We let them play here" or any other vague comment.

These videos can help create consistency.

PS Thanks APG!


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:01am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1