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JetMetFan Fri Mar 30, 2012 02:41pm
From ESPN's H.S. showcase...NFHS Rule 4-4-6 in action (kind of)
 
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REFANDUMP Fri Mar 30, 2012 02:54pm
Looks like a missed call to me. Never got three points over.

grunewar Fri Mar 30, 2012 03:12pm
Not a good angle for the C.

truerookie Fri Mar 30, 2012 03:28pm
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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 834937)
Not a good angle for the C.
I agree the majority of the players appeared to be at the FTL extended. Hustle to your position and initial a rotation if/when dictated (i.e trapping situation).

Hugh Refner Fri Mar 30, 2012 03:36pm
I agree there was no backcourt violation based on the three-points rule, however, he did appear to carry the ball right at that time.

JetMetFan Fri Mar 30, 2012 03:38pm
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Originally Posted by truerookie (Post 834941)
I agree the majority of the players appeared to be at the FTL extended. Hustle to your position and initial a rotation if/when dictated (i.e trapping situation).
Or initiate ;)

Being near the division line isn't a major problem. Remember, the C is supposed to follow the second wave of players up the court. The key is he wasn't following the ball, he was ahead of it. If he's equal to it or behind that whistle probably doesn't happen.

BTW, if I'd let the video go longer you would've heard the coach of Montverde yelling "the ball never got into frontcourt!" after the ensuing throw-in.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Refner (Post 834943)
he did appear to carry the ball right at that time.
I'm not to hot with a carry in that spot. A1's dribble looked pretty good to me.

Adam Fri Mar 30, 2012 04:31pm
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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 834944)
Or initiate ;)

Being near the division line isn't a major problem. Remember, the C is supposed to follow the second wave of players up the court. The key is he wasn't following the ball, he was ahead of it. If he's equal to it or behind that whistle probably doesn't happen.

BTW, if I'd let the video go longer you would've heard the coach of Montverde yelling "the ball never got into frontcourt!" after the ensuing throw-in.



I'm not to hot with a carry in that spot. A1's dribble looked pretty good to me.
It's possible that he called a carry but the coach thought it was a BC violation. Both would be the wrong call, IMO, but a carry isn't as inexcusable as the C making an incorrect BC violation call.

APG Fri Mar 30, 2012 06:06pm
There's nothing there except an incorrect call...I'm also betting the official called a backcourt violation rather than palming.

JRutledge Fri Mar 30, 2012 06:13pm
That is a rather big miss.

Peace

Raymond Sun Apr 01, 2012 09:50am
The next to last dribble was most definitely palming. But the official was most definitely calling a BC violation, which it wasn't.

JugglingReferee Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:57am
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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 834932)
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Big time wrong call. If Shaq was the evaluator, it'd be a horri-awful call.

Plays like this make me as T, to want to come over to my partner, and give him the chance to reverse his call. I'd "provide more information".

As for the palming, if it was that, then call that. Personally, I'd leave it alone and talk to the player (if it was his first time).

tref Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:48am
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 835358)
Plays like this make me as T, to want to come over to my partner, and give him the chance to reverse his call. I'd "provide more information".

As for the palming, it was that. So then call that. Personally, I'd leave it alone and talk to the player (if it was his first time).
Let him live & die with his ICC!! LOL

JRutledge Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:53am
Quote:
Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 835358)
As for the palming, it was that. So then call that. Personally, I'd leave it alone and talk to the player (if it was his first time).
It was?

Peace

JugglingReferee Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:06pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 835375)
It was?

Peace
Forgot the if.

Toren Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:14am
Wow, not even sure what to say here. This is a no call.


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