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fortmoney Tue Mar 27, 2012 01:33pm
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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 834512)
Mike and Roger kinda came up together via Fred Barakat in the late 90's....

Who do you guys think is better.........
I like Roger, and I witnessed him missing Louisiana Lafayette beating WKU with 6 players in OT

Raymond Tue Mar 27, 2012 02:30pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 834503)
Why do you think that John Adams or anyone involved with the selection of the NCAA tournament officials is aware that such a mistake was made?

It is entirely possible that the NCAA observer missed it.
Did someone send an email? Do you think that those folks read this site?
Have you seen an article in the press mentioning it?
Why do I think John Adams should be aware? I don't know, maybe because it was one of only 2 games being played in that timeslot and the game was in overtime and the other game had ended and the 2 late games hadn't started yet. So I kinda figured all eyes would be on that game at that particular point in time.

And since the announcers and studio crew never once mentioned it it doesn't surprise me that other media outlets were unaware as well. Of course I didn't know media attention is what validates whether or not a mistake was made. :rolleyes:

Raymond Tue Mar 27, 2012 02:33pm
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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 834516)
Very well put........Don't know if you went to any of Fred's camps but they were some of if not the best camps ever offered......

Eades by a nose....
They are best friends. And they run a camp together, or at least they used to.

Their personalities are different, Mike is more of a personable type while I believe Roger has a law enforcement background and that carries onto the court.

Scrapper1 Tue Mar 27, 2012 02:34pm
I'm a little surprised not to see Mike Stephens on that list. He went to the semis last year and I thought the feedback on him was excellent. I thought he would go back with a chance to work the final.

tomegun Tue Mar 27, 2012 03:29pm
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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 834516)
Very well put........Don't know if you went to any of Fred's camps but they were some of if not the best camps ever offered......

Eades by a nose....
I went to two in Indy - Fred's last two he ran.

Jay R Tue Mar 27, 2012 03:48pm
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Originally Posted by GROUPthink (Post 834433)
I saw this list posted elsewhere:

Pat Adams, Roger Ayers, Joe DeRosa, Tom Eades, Verne Harris, Les Jones, Jamie Luckie, Doug Shows, Mike Stuart, & Mark Whitehead
Is this THE list or is it speculation?

Raymond Tue Mar 27, 2012 03:54pm
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Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 834553)
Is this THE list or is it speculation?
It was on Facebook, that's not good enough for you? :cool:

BillyMac Tue Mar 27, 2012 04:02pm
It's The Honest Truth ...
 
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 834554)
It was on Facebook, that's not good enough for you?
If it's on the internet then it just has to be true. They would never allow something on the Internet that wasn't true? Right?

Adam Tue Mar 27, 2012 06:04pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 834554)
It was on Facebook, that's not good enough for you? :cool:
If it's good enough for Abraham Lincoln....

Judtech Tue Mar 27, 2012 07:54pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 834568)
If it's good enough for Abraham Lincoln....
And confirmed n Wikipedia!

Nevadaref Tue Mar 27, 2012 07:54pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 834535)
Why do I think John Adams should be aware? I don't know, maybe because it was one of only 2 games being played in that timeslot and the game was in overtime and the other game had ended and the 2 late games hadn't started yet. So I kinda figured all eyes would be on that game at that particular point in time.

And since the announcers and studio crew never once mentioned it it doesn't surprise me that other media outlets were unaware as well. Of course I didn't know media attention is what validates whether or not a mistake was made. :rolleyes:
It is still entirely possible that Adams and his observers didn't pick up on the mistake just like all of the others you mention.
Obviously they can't incorporate something into their evaluations of which they aren't aware, despite the fact that they should be aware of it.

BktBallRef Tue Mar 27, 2012 09:00pm
Another noticable missing: Ed Corbett. Of course, he was involved with the UNC-Asheville/Syracuse mess.

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 834472)
One of the articles which I read attributed this to the fact that John Adams doesn't favor guys who work so many games.
The fact that Ayers, Eades and Luckie all worked at least 95 games this season and are in the top 4 for number of games worked seems to disprove that theory.

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 834535)
Why do I think John Adams should be aware? I don't know, maybe because it was one of only 2 games being played in that timeslot and the game was in overtime and the other game had ended and the 2 late games hadn't started yet. So I kinda figured all eyes would be on that game at that particular point in time.
Adams was in Atlanta at the Georgia Dome that night. I seriously doubt he saw that incident.

Raymond Wed Mar 28, 2012 07:29am
Final Four officials Southern fried, familiar with teams

fullor30 Sat Mar 31, 2012 09:02am
It's Doug Show time

Saw him at NU about 3-4 years ago and was very impressed.

He's got the whole package

dahoopref Sat Mar 31, 2012 02:32pm
Kentucky vs Louisville: Les Jones, Doug Shows, Joe DeRosa

Ohio St vs Kansas: Jamie Luckie, Tom Eades, Patrick Adams


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