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Old Mon Mar 26, 2012, 08:49pm
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So the NCAA can afford to take a $30,000 to $40,000 loss times 13 floors each year, but it won't do a significant bump in the pay for the tournament officials?
Also which schools get these new floors each year? Is there a process for allocating them, if more than 13 schools wish to buy?
Seems what the NCAA is doing could be viewed as subsidizing certain programs, but not others. Is there fairness here?
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Old Mon Mar 26, 2012, 09:03pm
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That is what I had heard as well.
The NCAA also builds two floors exactly alike for the Final 4 (the second one is set up in Bracket Town, which operates during Final 4 week in the host city each year).

At the conclusion of the tournament the winning school is given the option of buying one or both of these floors. Most do; some schools install them in practice facilities and some others have cut up the floors and sold pieces of them as mementos.

One of the floors from a championship site where DUKE won a title is still in use at the Emily Krzyzewski Center in Durham, NC.

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Here's the answer -- it's a little of both. 5-6 floors are sold off and the ones from the first 3 rounds (including the First Four) are stored and reused:

After March Madness fades, NCAA Tournament floors find new life | NJ.com
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Old Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:44pm
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Btw the NCAA pays each conference $250,000 for each game played by one of its schools. So the NCAA is paying $500,000 for each of the 67 games. That's 33.5 M to the participating schools.
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So the NCAA can afford to take a $30,000 to $40,000 loss times 13 floors each year, but it won't do a significant bump in the pay for the tournament officials?
Spoken like labor. There is another point of view.

Management: We're taking a loss of nearly a half million dollars on these floors. We can't afford a pay raise for officials.
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What about the Spalding goals they use? Do they sell them also. They are the top of the line. What is the price on those 15k??
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Spoken like labor. There is another point of view.

Management: We're taking a loss of nearly a half million dollars on these floors. We can't afford a pay raise for officials.
Management: And, BTW, those officials are making $1700/hr
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So the NCAA can afford to take a $30,000 to $40,000 loss times 13 floors each year, but it won't do a significant bump in the pay for the tournament officials?
Also which schools get these new floors each year? Is there a process for allocating them, if more than 13 schools wish to buy?
Seems what the NCAA is doing could be viewed as subsidizing certain programs, but not others. Is there fairness here?
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Spoken like labor. There is another point of view.

Management: We're taking a loss of nearly a half million dollars on these floors. We can't afford a pay raise for officials.
I'm one of the most pro-labor fellas you'll ever meet but I don't think NCAA tourney pay is a true concern for officials at this time, is it? They're getting paid per diem, travel, and put up at nice hotels. Are there any officials out there who are turning down NCAA tourney assignments b/c of inadequate compensation? Are there officials who are saying I'd rather work the first 2 rounds of the NIT at the local university and sleep in my own bed?
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.... I don't think ncaa tourney pay is a true concern for officials at this time, is it? They're getting paid per diem, travel, and put up at nice hotels. Are there any officials out there who are turning down ncaa tourney assignments b/c of inadequate compensation?
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I'm one of the most pro-labor fellas you'll ever meet but I don't think NCAA tourney pay is a true concern for officials at this time, is it? They're getting paid per diem, travel, and put up at nice hotels. Are there any officials out there who are turning down NCAA tourney assignments b/c of inadequate compensation? Are there officials who are saying I'd rather work the first 2 rounds of the NIT at the local university and sleep in my own bed?
Many guys would do these games for free, I'm guessing. So there's no reason to pay more than what they'd get in the regular season.
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Many guys would do these games for free, I'm guessing. So there's no reason to pay more than what they'd get in the regular season.
I'd be willing to bet you could get quality announcers to do these games for free as well.
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Many guys would do these games for free, I'm guessing. So there's no reason to pay more than what they'd get in the regular season.
Not the guys that are working the majority of the games the rest of the year. An official that is trying to move up and only works 10-20 D1 games a year, sure ... but I don't think the NCAA wants them working the tourney!
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I'd be willing to bet you could get quality announcers to do these games for free as well.
The fact that some of them get paid now is a travesty.
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I'm one of the most pro-labor fellas you'll ever meet but I don't think NCAA tourney pay is a true concern for officials at this time, is it? They're getting paid per diem, travel, and put up at nice hotels. Are there any officials out there who are turning down NCAA tourney assignments b/c of inadequate compensation?
No, but do you really think that the NCAA Tournament pay which comes with MUCH more scrutiny than during the regular season should be LESS than what an official makes in a normal conference game?

[QUOTE=BadNewsRef;834787]Are there officials who are saying I'd rather work the first 2 rounds of the NIT at the local university and sleep in my own bed?

Don't know, but I know there are officials that are working both because they want the extra money. Coaches and sports writers are always talking about officials working too many games —*if you want them to work fewer games you're going to have to pay more.

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