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paulsonj72 Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:20am

Correctable Error Time Frame-NCAA Rules
 
question here in regards to a correctable error regarding getting the clock reset in the last 1:00 with NCAA rules. In the Minnesota-MTSU NIT game tonight MTSU hit a 3 prointer with 7.2 seconds left and the clock then went down to :06. MTSU called a time out and during this TO the clock was not reset. After the TO MTSU pressed and Minnesota was not able to inbound the ball and called a TO. After the Minnesota TO the officials went back to the monitor and reset the clock to 7.2 seconds. Did this fall into the proper correcting of a correctable error as no time had run off the clock after the stoppage as Minnesota did not inbound the ball before the TO. The additional time didn't make any difference as on the ensuing inbounds play a MTSU player was called for a T for slapping the ball out of the inbounders hand while the inbounder was out of bounds and had not released the ball.

JetMetFan Thu Mar 22, 2012 05:22am

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Originally Posted by paulsonj72 (Post 833567)
question here in regards to a correctable error regarding getting the clock reset in the last 1:00 with NCAA rules. In the Minnesota-MTSU NIT game tonight MTSU hit a 3 prointer with 7.2 seconds left and the clock then went down to :06. MTSU called a time out and during this TO the clock was not reset. After the TO MTSU pressed and Minnesota was not able to inbound the ball and called a TO. After the Minnesota TO the officials went back to the monitor and reset the clock to 7.2 seconds. Did this fall into the proper correcting of a correctable error as no time had run off the clock after the stoppage as Minnesota did not inbound the ball before the TO. The additional time didn't make any difference as on the ensuing inbounds play a MTSU player was called for a T for slapping the ball out of the inbounders hand while the inbounder was out of bounds and had not released the ball.

First, remember this isn't a correctable error. There are only five CEs, four of which have to do with FTs. This was a mistake in stopping the clock.

That being said, it did fall within the time frame to deal with it:

NCAA 2-13-2c (use of replay monitors):
1. Determine whether the game clock malfunctioned or whether a timing mistake occurred in starting or stopping the game clock.
a. After the malfunction or mistake, such a mistake shall be corrected:
1. During the first dead ball and before the ball is touched inbounds or out of bounds by a player other than a thrower-in.


The crew was okay because, as you said, the ball was never touched by anyone other than the thrower after the time out.

Scrapper1 Thu Mar 22, 2012 07:49am

Even if it did fall under the correctable error rule, they would've been ok in correcting it, because the clock never started after the ball became dead.

paulsonj72 Thu Mar 22, 2012 05:07pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 833586)
Even if it did fall under the correctable error rule, they would've been ok in correcting it, because the clock never started after the ball became dead.

They did correct it and were right to do so. I was just wondering since I had never seen it done before AFTER there was an attempt to put the ball in play. Every other time I've seen it it gas been right away.

Scrapper1 Thu Mar 22, 2012 07:13pm

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Originally Posted by paulsonj72 (Post 833706)
They did correct it and were right to do so.

Right. But my point was that the "statute of limitations" for fixing a correctable error doesn't even start until the clock is properly started. So even if had been a correctable error (as you apparently thought), they could've handed the ball to the thrower-in, had a technical foul, shot the free throws, taken another time-out, and STILL corrected the error.

paulsonj72 Thu Mar 22, 2012 09:06pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 833722)
Right. But my point was that the "statute of limitations" for fixing a correctable error doesn't even start until the clock is properly started. So even if had been a correctable error (as you apparently thought), they could've handed the ball to the thrower-in, had a technical foul, shot the free throws, taken another time-out, and STILL corrected the error.


I understand. I had just never seen an attempt to put the ball inbounds and then have a timeout and THEN have the time corrected. The T came after the time was put back on the clock. But I understand what you are saying. Because the ball was never inbounded the T could have been called and free throws shot and then the clock adjusted.(or anytime before the ball was inbounded)


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