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tref Thu Mar 15, 2012 03:52pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 832149)
Not in the tourney. They never do.

Sure would have prevented whatever is being discussed here. I haven't seen it yet.

Neither have I, gotta work :(

jbduke Thu Mar 15, 2012 03:53pm

This error would have been correctable to start the half, no? I've been in the rulebook all half, and I'm struggling to see how it's not correctable.

If I'm wrong, mea culpa to the crew (sort of). If I'm right, it's a double-whammy.

tref Thu Mar 15, 2012 03:53pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 832146)
Negative...count the basket and one...since the foul occurred before the shot clock expired, the clock should have stopped.

Do we have a CE situation here?

BktBallRef Thu Mar 15, 2012 03:56pm

It's within the next dead ball time frame but I'm not sure how the end of the period plays in under NCAA rules.

No matter, they didn't correct it. And Len Elmore is explaining to everyone how they got it right. :(

jbduke Thu Mar 15, 2012 03:58pm

There are no end-of-half exceptions listed in 2.12. I think it's a CE.

fortmoney Thu Mar 15, 2012 03:58pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 832156)
It's within the next dead ball time frame but I'm not sure how the end of the period plays in under NCAA rules.

No matter, they didn't correct it. And Len Elmore is explaining to everyone how they got it right. :(

That's what is making me mad. The crew just missed a goaltend against Cuse so now atleast the outcome of the game can't be blamed on this one call

BktBallRef Thu Mar 15, 2012 04:00pm

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Originally Posted by fortmoney (Post 832161)
...so now atleast the outcome of the game can't be blamed on this one call

Wanna bet? Fans can always blame a loss on a call.

fortmoney Thu Mar 15, 2012 04:10pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 832165)
Wanna bet? Fans can always blame a loss on a call.

fans can, but at least I can rest knowing that there was at least one major missed call against both teams with similar results

APG Thu Mar 15, 2012 04:13pm

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Originally Posted by fortmoney (Post 832168)
fans can, but at least I can rest knowing that there was at least one major missed call against both teams with similar results

One was a missed judgement call...the other was a misapplication of the rules. Two different categories.

JRutledge Thu Mar 15, 2012 04:14pm

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Originally Posted by fortmoney (Post 832168)
fans can, but at least I can rest knowing that there was at least one major missed call against both teams with similar results

Fans will blame the first call on the game for the outcome. Who cares what fans think. No one call ever changes the outcome of a game. There are too many plays that if gone one way or the other have the same result.

Peace

tref Thu Mar 15, 2012 04:15pm

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Originally Posted by fortmoney (Post 832168)
fans can, but at least I can rest knowing that there was at least one major missed call against both teams with similar results

Two wrongs dont make it right & it will be interesting to see if they advance. You would think somebody on the crew knows its a CE or at least a buddy would call to help out.

Rich Thu Mar 15, 2012 04:33pm

Someone want to explain to these jokers why a player can't run in from outside the 3-point line on the release?

tref Thu Mar 15, 2012 04:36pm

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Originally Posted by GROUPthink (Post 832177)
Someone want to explain to these jokers why a player can't run in from outside the 3-point line on the release?

Uhmmm because its not the NBA? :D

Or because players not along the lane lines have the same restriction as the shooter?

BktBallRef Thu Mar 15, 2012 04:38pm

Where's Mike Pierrera when you need him?
 
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Originally Posted by GROUPthink (Post 832177)
Someone want to explain to these jokers why a player can't run in from outside the 3-point line on the release?

They need a rules expert sitting in the studio to help them when they're too stupid to know the rule.

Rich Thu Mar 15, 2012 04:39pm

The crew looked bad on the out of bounds play right after this. The announcers are right -- either call the foul or call the OOB correctly. Film don't lie.


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