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tref Tue Mar 13, 2012 01:03pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 831720)
Let me ask you this:
Are you offering the information without being asked? Or are you using the signal only on plays where the coach starts questioning a no-call?

Snaqs I've been taught not to trouble trouble.

Adam Tue Mar 13, 2012 01:16pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 831721)
Snaqs I've been taught not to trouble trouble.

Okay, that's my philosophy, too. I've never had anything but trouble from offering information that wasn't requested. That's my main issue with this "signal," though, is that when I see it used, it's offered both too quickly and without any request for information.

rwest Tue Mar 13, 2012 01:21pm

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Originally Posted by snaqwells (Post 831725)
that's my main issue with this "signal," though, is that when i see it used, it's offered both too quickly and without any request for information.

+10000

tref Tue Mar 13, 2012 01:30pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 831725)
Okay, that's my philosophy, too. I've never had anything but trouble from offering information that wasn't requested. That's my main issue with this "signal," though, is that when I see it used, it's offered both too quickly and without any request for information.

Concur, I usually see it in lower level games & in the off-season. But they dont usually use the "gator chomp" its usually the communication tool for a tipped ball at the moment the blocked shot occurs... and thats when I come over the top with a foul. j/k :D

Jeremy Hohn Wed Mar 14, 2012 02:01am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 831648)
Regarding #2: Most of my supervisors/assignors say don't do it because if another whistle comes from somewhere it creates all sorts of problems. I was always told if a kid blocks a shot and I don't do anything, that tells everyone in the gym the play was legal. Some people still do it because they can't break the habit.

I'll duck #1 since I'm NCAAW and this sounds like an NCAAM sort of question. NCAAW are, IMO, a bit more stringent on screens because that game is played below the rim, so screens in general have a bigger effect.


I work the Women's side and concur with the above...

onetime1 Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:37am

I have worked with a partner who does the "gator chomp" mechanic about 15 times per game and I never use it once.. I think that is kind of strange.

Adam Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:43am

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Originally Posted by onetime1 (Post 831854)
I have worked with a partner who does the "gator chomp" mechanic about 15 times per game and I never use it once.. I think that is kind of strange.

Had a chance to use it last night in a ms game. Coach never asked why there wasn't a foul, though, so I didn't bother.

Multiple Sports Wed Mar 14, 2012 05:09pm

Gator Chop......
 
Used it a lot when I ws in hs school and I thought I was somebody.....further I moves up the ladder (DII &DIII) it has dissapeared. Why stick out and use an unauthorized mechanic, especially if you are with that guy who calls every 50/50 that you pass on. We all know who that guy is our leagues

That Guy Wed Mar 14, 2012 05:41pm

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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 831929)
Used it a lot when I ws in hs school and I thought I was somebody.....further I moves up the ladder (DII &DIII) it has dissapeared. Why stick out and use an unauthorized mechanic, especially if you are with that guy who calls every 50/50 that you pass on. We all know who that guy is our leagues

Hey, it needed calling. He got slapped on the wrist on his way by. They might need those free throws later.


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