More State Tournament Fun

[Toren]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

So here is the excitement from Washington's 4A State tournament...the first video is of the full court shot that the Union HS kid hit at the buzzer. Union lost by 1. The second clip is of the possession right before the full court shot...same kid hits a shot and the C overrules the L during the timeout and calls it a 2...the guy at C ended up working the Championship game the next night.

Forget something?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Toren

Forget something?

Dang it...

Washington star Jordan Chatman hits full-court buzzer-beater ? which should have tied state semi | Prep Rally - Yahoo! Sports

[tref]

Ouch, I apologize for being critical, but this is unacceptable!

On the 3 that was changed to a 2, I only see one official in the screen. WTH is the C at?? Looks like hes lolligaging in the most pivotal part of the game.
Honestly, I dont see how the T could've marked a 3 point attempt judging by where he is. This is clearly an example of when the L should be cognizant of his partners poor positioning & sneaking a peak at the transitional game tying try.

And the last shot was clearly G O N E prior to the horn.

Here, if we do a semi thats it, we cant get the final too.
If thats not the case where you work, he should've lost that gig!
C'Mon man!!

[ballgame99]

I'm with tref, my first observation is where in the world are the officials? The C doesn't ever get past half court. That was CLEARLY a 3. So I'm guessing the announcer says its a 3 without any signal from the officials, and the officials convene and say it was a two because we were being lazy and not running the floor so we could see the play. The L probably should have picked up the slack here (since not much was happening in his primary yet) but you can't peg it on him. That is embarrasing.

[Raymond]

Hard to defend the crew on this one.

The C chooses the last minute of the game to stop hustling, not a good look at all.

The Lead was hustling but had a lot of bodies in between him and the shooter so it would be hard for him to get a good look. Plus, as the Lead, I would have assumed the C was going to be in position to mark any 3-point shots on his half the court.

[Da Official]

This is why they pay for a 3-Man crew......State should get some of their money back. Geesh...

[rockyroad]

A little added info...the visiting team (Union) called a timeout as soon as the disputed shot went in. The scoreboard put it up as a 3. The C (who was also the R of the crew) called the crew together. Apparently the L and the T both said it was a 3, but the C "overruled" them and had it scored as a 2. Apparently his argument was that neither of them could have had a clean look at the play - but somehow he did. I will say that I got all of this info from the guy who was the Alt. official and was sitting at the score table listening to everything. And no - they never asked him.

It is hard to defend them on this play. And it is hard to defend a system that allows the one guy who should have been there to get the call correct to then work the Championship game the next evening.

[tref]

After reviewing the film & acknowledging my shortcomings that ultimately cost the kids a trip to the finals, I personally, would've removed myself from the C'Ship!

But then again, everybody doesn't review their work, ma.y times its just on to the next one. Smh

That being said, no... Nobody is perfect, I make mistakes too. I just try not to make em gamers.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by tref

On the 3 that was changed to a 2, I only see one official in the screen. WTH is the C at?? Looks like hes lolligaging in the most pivotal part of the game.
Honestly, I dont see how the T could've marked a 3 point attempt judging by where he is. This is clearly an example of when the L should be cognizant of his partners poor positioning & sneaking a peak at the transitional game tying try.

While I agree with your assessment, please read OP again ... "same kid hits a shot and the C overrules the L during the timeout and calls it a 2". This makes it only worse.

[tref]

Originally Posted by BLydic

While I agree with your assessment, please read OP again ... "same kid hits a shot and the C overrules the L during the timeout and calls it a 2". This makes it only worse.

I stand corrected, the L exhibited "a nice piece of officiating" by sneaking a peak. Not much more you do when the R takes over the game... well, except use the phrase that pays, "I'm 100% certain & I accept full responsibility!" If that doesnt work, then it is what it is...

[truerookie]

Do to my previous posts. I will remain silent on this one. It speaks for itself.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by truerookie

Doue to my previous posts. I will remain silent on this one. It speaks for itself.

Don't want to reveal that you agree with the group?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by tref

I stand corrected, the L exhibited "a nice piece of officiating" by sneaking a peak. Not much more you do when the R takes over the game... well, except use the phrase that pays, "I'm 100% certain & I accept full responsibility!" If that doesnt work, then it is what it is...

Right. The new L - who did right by sneaking a peek since it was in transition - should've come out with conviction when the shot was made and during the time out to say it was a 3. I'll agree, there's no way the new T could've seen anything but there's no way the C could've called it either since he had to be a good 15 feet behind the play.

What's worse is the C's only job on transition plays is to stay with the ball between the arcs. The guy was half-walking, half-jogging from the moment the play started.