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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 829979)

The T is only one that that has some reasonable chance of happening.....but the underlying point, one that may be more relevant at other times than in this particular scenario, is that a quarter/OT starts when the ball becomes live, not when the clock starts.

Is NCAA different?

NFHS 4-43-2: A succesive time-out is one which is granted to either team before the clock has started following the previous time-out.

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 829980)

Is NCAA different?

NFHS 4-43-2: A succesive time-out is one which is granted to either team before the clock has started following the previous time-out.

You are rigt, and I thought this too. I'm not sure why I let Camron convince me otherwise. It states that the clock most run in the next OT period in the case book plays also, not live ball.

I actually had thought the same as Camron, but I had just been questioned about it by a friend of mine who is a coach. The official had refused to grant her succesive timeout during overtime, saying it was not allowed. She told him she was not familiar with that rule. He explained that this could not be found in the rule book, but it was a case play.

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 829957)

I tried to provide a hint...but it was missed. ;)

The rules on when a timeout can be taken don't say anything about the clock starting for the extra period.....

The rules don't, but the case plays do.

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Originally Posted by Case Book

5.11.7 SITUATION A:

Airborne shooter A1 is fouled by B1 with the try in flight. The horn then sounds ending the fourth quarter playing time. The ball continues its flight and goes through the basket to tie the score. Before A1 attempts the free throw as part of the fourth quarter, Team B captain requests and is *granted a 60-second time-out. Team A or B captain then requests a 30-second time-out during the same dead-ball period.

RULING: The second request is denied. At the end of playing time for the fourth quarter or any overtime period, successive time-outs shall not be granted. This means a time-out cannot be granted either team until the clock has run in the extra period - assuming the free throw is missed. Successive time-outs may be granted in all situations except after time has expired in the fourth quarter or any extra period.

5.11.7 SITUATION B:

Following the expiration of time for the first extra period, the coach of Team B is charged with a technical foul. Team B requests a time-out before the free throws are administered to start the second extra period. The time-out request is granted. Thereafter, the official administers the first free throw to A1. Following the attempt: (a) Team B; or (b) Team A, then requests a time-out.

RULING: The request cannot be granted in either (a) or (b), as it would be considered a successive time-out. The fact that the ball did become live between the two requests has no bearing on the ruling. Another time-out request by either team cannot be honored until after the clock has started in the second extra period.

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 829995)

The rules don't, but the case plays do.

I stand corrected.

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 829995)

The rules don't, but the case plays do.

And actually I'm wrong with my statement above, the rules do also, 4-43-2 as noted by a couple other posters.