Tenn St/Murray St

[truerookie]

I say if this was in the early part of the half. This would be a PC. By it being with 4.4 seconds left you will not get this call.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by truerookie

I say if this was in the early part of the half. This would be a PC. By it being with 4.4 seconds left you will not get this call.

That is awful thinking and I hope that you don't really referee that way.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Brad

That is awful thinking and I hope that you don't really referee that way.

Won't get past middle school with that mindset in most areas.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Won't get past middle school with that mindset in most areas.

Snaqwells you should be a fortune teller. The one thing I will not do is allow GROUPTHINK influence how I should apply a rule. I stand by my assessment. You will not get this call with that little time on the clock versus the early part of the half.

I really enjoy how you and your GROUPTHINK MEMBERS can make an assessment of others and haven't even seen them on the court/film/person or anything.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by Brad

That is awful thinking and I hope that you don't really referee that way.

How is this awful? The shooter is airborne returns back to the floor safely and still crashes into the defender.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by truerookie

How is this awful? The shooter is airborne returns back to the floor safely and still crashes into the defender.

The awful thinking is that it is one call early in the half and a different call with 4.4 seconds left.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by truerookie

I say if this was in the early part of the half. This would be a PC. By it being with 4.4 seconds left you will not get this call.

It was not a PC at any point in the game. A1 landed followed by incidental contact with B1.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It was not a PC at any point in the game. A1 landed followed by incidental contact with B1.

So, it's ok to crash even after you land. You stated yourself he returned back to the floor and followed by incidental contact. So he landed safely and still crashes into the defender.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by truerookie

So, it's ok to crash even after you land. You stated yourself he returned back to the floor and followed by incidental contact. So he landed safely and still crashes into the defender.

The difference is that he ajudges the contact to be incidental while you are calling it a crash. Those are two very different things and why you are not in agreement.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It was not a PC at any point in the game. A1 landed followed by incidental contact with B1.

Originally Posted by truerookie

So, it's ok to crash even after you land. You stated yourself he returned back to the floor and followed by incidental contact. So he landed safely and still crashes into the defender.

While you rail on about GROUPTHINK you apparently need to learn to read my posts. I said it wasn't a PC at any point in the game. And I said there was incidental contact after A1 landed--incidental contact meaning no foul.

And if there was a foul, it would have to be charging/pushing since the try was released. How do you have a PC foul in an NCAA-M's game after the try is released?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Opinions on block/charge situation with 4.4 seconds left.

I have a charge, especially since the crew had called a similar play a PC a few minutes earlier.

(btw...I love YouTube. I knew someone would have this posted in a heartbeat)

Murray State beats Tennessee State - YouTube

I have been semi-following this thread since it started. I think Brad and some others have said that they would not have called this a foul because they wouldn't have called it a foul in the first five seconds of any period. I can live with that consistency of call even though I would have called it a charge at any point in the game; everybody knows my mantra: CHARGE IT!! But that is another story.

The problem I see and Brad and others agree with me, is the mindset that some officials have: let the players decide the game. Players DO decide the game, and if this was a foul in the first five seconds of the game it had better damn well be a foul in the last five seconds of the game because players decide the game not the officials.

MTD, Sr.