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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Mar 05, 2012 03:25pm
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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 829503)
Opinions on block/charge situation with 4.4 seconds left.

I have a charge, especially since the crew had called a similar play a PC a few minutes earlier.

(btw...I love YouTube. I knew someone would have this posted in a heartbeat)

Murray State beats Tennessee State - YouTube

I have been semi-following this thread since it started. I think Brad and some others have said that they would not have called this a foul because they wouldn't have called it a foul in the first five seconds of any period. I can live with that consistency of call even though I would have called it a charge at any point in the game; everybody knows my mantra: CHARGE IT!! But that is another story.

The problem I see and Brad and others agree with me, is the mindset that some officials have: let the players decide the game. Players DO decide the game, and if this was a foul in the first five seconds of the game it had better damn well be a foul in the last five seconds of the game because players decide the game not the officials.

MTD, Sr.

Adam Mon Mar 05, 2012 03:47pm
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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 829993)
great no call. If anything its a block, but you can't really see how much contact occurs from that angle.
A block? Why?

Adam Mon Mar 05, 2012 03:49pm
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Originally Posted by truerookie (Post 829998)
BNR, my point exactly. My position was at times officials will not make that call towards the end of the game. Opposed to making a similar call in early parts of the game.
Not at this level. At least not if they want to move on.

Rich Mon Mar 05, 2012 03:58pm
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Originally Posted by truerookie (Post 830000)
Are you sure in the judgement of the official the screens were not incidental contact? You know basketball is a contact sport.;)
I saw at least 2 3-point baskets made because one of the Illinois's bigs illegally stepped in front of the defender. Quite a few others I would've shipped in my games, too.

truerookie Mon Mar 05, 2012 05:16pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 830011)
Not at this level. At least not if they want to move on.
I agree.

fullor30 Mon Mar 05, 2012 07:23pm
A no call by me in first five minutes and at end of game.

ballgame99 Tue Mar 06, 2012 09:50am
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 830009)
A block? Why?
I said if ANYTHING its a block, meaning no way its a charge. From that angle it doesn't look like LGP is established, B1 leans over into the path of A1. In this case it doesn't look like this created a significant disadvantage to A1.

Hypothtical; if the existing level of contact would have caused A1 to lose the ball out of bounds does this no-call become a call? I'm just curious.

Camron Rust Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:14am
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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 830184)
I said if ANYTHING its a block, meaning no way its a charge. From that angle it doesn't look like LGP is established, B1 leans over into the path of A1. In this case it doesn't look like this created a significant disadvantage to A1.

I can see that.


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