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BillyMac Tue Feb 21, 2012 01:17pm

rockyroad: Pick A Prize From The Top Shelf ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 826321)
"Coach, I will watch for that. In the meantime, you can take care of your player or I can. It's up to you." And then walk away from him/her.

Wow. What a rational, thoughtful, and appropriate response. Are you sure that you wanted to post it here on the Forum? I don't think that such responses are allowed here, especially from tree hugging, medical marijuana smoking, hippies from the Pacific Northwest.

rockyroad Tue Feb 21, 2012 01:25pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 826325)
Wow. What a rational, thoughtful, and appropriate response. Are you sure that you wanted to post it here on the Forum? I don't think that such responses are allowed here, especially from tree hugging, medical marijuana smoking, hippies from the Pacific Northwest.

Them's fighting words, Billy!

I had to check with snaqs, JAR and bbr first to make sure the "group" was in agreement with my post.:p

DesMoines Tue Feb 21, 2012 01:41pm

Bonus points for Rocky
 
Coach got a one-hand stop sign. "I hear you, but he's done talking. That's enough." ... and then I was on my way to the other end of the floor.

I have to think the longer I do this, the more coaches I'll see and remember which ones to address this kind of situation with and which ones to just talk to their players instead. Maybe it's different every game. Would love to continue to hear your thoughts.

For the record, we didn't hear a peep out of either of them the rest of the game: coach or player.

just another ref Tue Feb 21, 2012 01:48pm

Is there any way to really do this wrong?

Warn either one if you want:

To the player: Not another word.

To the coach: I've heard enough from your #32, coach.

But this, of all things, does not necessarily require any warning at all. If he says too much, T him up.

Lots of talk here about "A little from Batman, nothing from Robin." The player is a couple of notches below Robin.

BillyMac Tue Feb 21, 2012 01:52pm

A Classic Forum Metaphor ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 826340)
Lots of talk here about "A little from Batman, nothing from Robin."

Not here. What forum have you been reading? It's not Batman, and Robin. It's the organ grinder, and his monkey.

just another ref Tue Feb 21, 2012 01:59pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 826343)
Not here. What forum have you been reading? It's not Batman, and Robin. It's the organ grinder, and his monkey.

Billy, have you considered a sedative?

Welpe Tue Feb 21, 2012 02:01pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 826348)
Billy, have you considered a sedative?

That is signature material right there.

BillyMac Tue Feb 21, 2012 02:11pm

The Evergreen State ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 826328)
Them's fighting words, Billy!

Exactly which part of my post do you have a problem: Tree Hugging, Medical Marijuana Smoking, or Hippies?

Pick one and I'll apologize.

Also, Happy Birthday tomorrow.

BillyMac Tue Feb 21, 2012 02:13pm

When The Cat's Away, The Mice Will Play ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 826348)
Billy, have you considered a sedative?

I may have forgotten to take my medication this morning.

The new computer at my work station has internet access, and my supervisor left early for the day. I either feel like a "kid in a candy store", or a "bull in a china store".

I can't believe how many esteemed Forum members are on at this time of the day. Don't any of you work for a living? When fans yell, "Don't quit your day job", they really have no idea, do they?

twocentsworth Tue Feb 21, 2012 02:25pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 826321)
Me: "Coach, I will watch for that. In the meantime, you can take care of your player or I can. It's up to you."

And then walk away from him/her.

If coach deals with that kid, then we are ok. If coach doesn't, then the next time that player complains to anyone on the crew, I will assess the T.

Be careful....RichMSN and Snaqwells with think you're "backing yourself into a corner" if you do that....:)

Rich Tue Feb 21, 2012 02:30pm

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Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 826356)
Be careful....RichMSN and Snaqwells with think you're "backing yourself into a corner" if you do that....:)

Nope. I'm fine with this verbiage. No direct threat.

BillyMac Tue Feb 21, 2012 02:30pm

Adult Beverages After The Game Are On Me ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 826321)
"Coach, I will watch for that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 826356)
Be careful, RichMSN and Snaqwells with think you're "backing yourself into a corner" if you do that.

If I got a dollar every time I've said this to a coach over thirty-one years, I'd be a very rich man today. Sometimes I actually meant it. Wait? I can't lie. A few times I actually meant it.

JugglingReferee Tue Feb 21, 2012 02:45pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 826359)
If I got a dollar every time I've said this to a coach over thirty-one years, I'd be a very rich man today. Sometimes I actually meant it. Wait? I can't lie. A few times I actually meant it.

What I've found that works numerous times is to actually watch specifically for a certain event that a coach believes is affecting his team - every time.

When I am able to back up my call or non-call with a step by step prognosis of what happened, I dare say all coaches have accepted my judgement without question.

rockyroad Tue Feb 21, 2012 02:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 826356)
Be careful....RichMSN and Snaqwells with think you're "backing yourself into a corner" if you do that....:)

Hmmmm...I can't read minds, but I don't think they will think that.

But then, maybe they have decided to kick me out of the "group think" group and haven't told me yet! :eek:

rockyroad Tue Feb 21, 2012 03:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 826353)
Exactly which part of my post do you have a problem: Tree Hugging, Medical Marijuana Smoking, or Hippies?

Pick one and I'll apologize.

Also, Happy Birthday tomorrow.

All 3 - since none of them apply to me.

And my birthday is in July, but thanks anyway!


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