Rut got himself published online! He's using a pseudonym (no, not an eponym!), but it's clearly him. Check out

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/pressman/030602.html

Note, this whole post is made with tongue firmly planted in cheek! :D

Very funny, thanks!

BTW, anyone who's ever been inside a casino realizes that they break what seems to be some pretty fundemental laws of physics by placing everything a half mile away from anything else. And the only way to get from point A to point B is through a wrinkle in space occupied by slots, blackjack, craps & roulette tables.

It's obvious this wasn't written by Juulie. :D

ROTFLMAO!

Really, I had to walk away to catch my breath.

That was good fun.

If I print out the article and mail it to him, I wonder if Jeff will autograph it for me. . . :)

You are right, I am the only one.
 

I am the only person that just does not like Women's Basketball. So much that the ratings are so high and threw the roof that the X-Games have a larger audience than the WNBA Season. BTW, I did not here anyone talk about the start of the season this past weekend. But then again, you were watching Chuck. ;)

Peace

Re: You are right, I am the only one.
 

"He's using a pseudonym (no, not an eponym!), but it's clearly him."

>So much that the ratings are so high and *threw* the roof that the X-Games have a larger audience than the WNBA Season. BTW, I did not *here* anyone talk ...<

Chuck:

Are you sure he's the "righter"?

You might not like Jeff, but I respect his stance on the subject. IMO, the two games are totally different. I don't really enjoy women's basketball either, but I love the men's game. I don't work the women's game because I don't enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that IMO. I thought the writer of the article hit the nail on the head when she wrote that it isn't politically correct, but it is the way people feel.

Stripes, the post has nothing to do with liking or disliking him. He's simply the one who always voices the "I don't like women's hoops" side of things on this board, that's all. So when I saw this "I don't like the WNBA" article, it seemed natural to attribute it to him. Doubtless there are others (like yourself, apparently) who prefer to watch men's basketball than women's, and there's nothing wrong with that; Rut just says so more often than most on this board. That's all.

[Edited by ChuckElias on Jun 3rd, 2003 at 03:38 PM]

It's Rut and the editor of his article must have had the premium version of spell check to get it edited. I didn't know Rut was only 5'2" though. :-)

Z

No harm here, just the truth.
 

Chuck,

Here you go again making some grandious statement that is not true. This is not about Women's sports in general, it is just about basketball. When I watch tennis, I watch the women's side mainly. I watched the Women's World Cup when Brandy Chastain(sp?) took off her shirt. Actually I watched most of the tournament as well, not just the finals. I also think the point that stripes makes, is that many people have the same attitude. This article did not just come out in a bubble, there is obviously people that feel that way about women's basketball and many that I know are women. But when you say that, the PC police come out and rip you for giving a common belief and try to question your integrity for feeling that way. Camp season has started and if you are going to some of the camps I am attending, used to working girl's and women's college games, you will not get hired. Just a fact of life and nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

Peace

Re: No harm here, just the truth.
 

My bad. I've edited my post to reflect that. Wouldn't want anybody to think that you ever make sweeping overgeneralizations. :rolleyes:

Um, I think if you read the underlined part of my post above, you'll notice that I made that point even before stripes did.

Hey, Porky, send Rut that humor plug-in, would ya? He musta missed the part of my post that said my tongue was in my cheek. ;)

My reference for "you" was not directed at you personally, Chuck, but rather at the collective "you" of the board folks. I agree that he voices his opinions more than most, but he has taken this stance and stuck with it, even in the face of ridicule and scorn for doing it. In today's politically correct world where it is not ok to not like something because of a gender based reason, I respect him for doing that. The fact that the NBA's $$ are backing it and forcing down basketball fan's collective throats is the only reason, IMO, that the league has survived. The products is not very good and is not entertaining IMO. I agreed with the writer of the article almost 100%

I personally prefer sports on a case by case basis--women's tennis and volleyball are two that I prefer to their male counterpart sports.

Re: Re: No harm here, just the truth.
 

Chuck unlike yourself I do not need to drink a beer to tell this board what I think about issues. And I did not say you made an overgeneralization (get it right), I said you exaggerated that the point I make about women's basketball only comes from me. The reality is most officials I know have a preference between Men's and Women's ball. The truth is that many here are afraid to say what they think.


Stripes can speak for himself. And he already did.


The one that needs to lighten up is you Chuck. As usual you think this is an emotional topic when it is not even a blip on the radar. If you did not want to respond, why use my name to make a joke? And I got the joke, just stated that I am not the only one that feels that way and stripes made that very clear. You claim to be an accomplished official (despite your shortcomings) that has done D3 Men's Playoffs if I am not mistaken. Do you tell me that you do not find other officials that say the same thing if not worse about women's basketball. Because if assignors in my area will not hire officials because they are considered "girl's" officials, then I am sure this is the case around the country. It is not like when Annika Sorenstan played in the Memorial PGA Event, that the only critics came from Illinois. But then again, you do not want to have a "real" discussion about an issue, you just want to live in your protected world of fantasy. I would feel so constrained by lying to myself and everyone about what I really think about something. Not the way I was raised, not the way I have lived. ;)

Peace

Re: No harm here, just the truth.
 

..now you're worried about spelling..

And btw, Rut, I believe Chuck has stated that he doesn't partake of the brownpops, so don't accuse him of gettin' all lickered up and makin' fun of ya. Now me on the other hand...;)

When the ratings come out, I think more people will have watched OLN's climbing of Everest beat any WNBA game. BTW all the female climbers dropped out of that one too.

Porky? WTF? :confused:

I knew that, stripes. I apologize if my reply seemed to be taking offense. I was just trying to explain that my post didn't have anything to do with my feelings (good or bad) about Rut; but I just chose his name b/c of his preference not to watch women's ball (which, as I've said, I have no problem with). Obviously, I can't speak for other folks. Again, sorry if it seemed otherwise. This whole thing was supposed to be a joke, but apparently I screwed it up again. Oh well.

Is that the kind of women's volleyball that they play on the beach in bikinis? ;)

Chuck

Re: Re: Re: No harm here, just the truth.
 

Holy crow, where to begin? Sigh. I have no desire to get into a battle here, but. . .

I never said that you accused me of overgeneralization.

Well, I never said that you're the only one who has said that. (Perhaps I also could insert "get it right" here?) All I said was that you seem to be the one to voice this opinion (WHICH I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH WHATSOEVER) most often on this board. That's all. The article made me think of you. I apologize.

You do realize, I hope, that I didn't write the underlined portion of the above quote. You wrote that. I never spoke for stripes. I only said that I made the same point that he did, which is that you're not the only one to like men's hoop better than women's (which is a position that I have no problem with whatsoever).


Rut, it was supposed to be a joke, ok? I am sorry. I apologize. I had no emotional investment whatsoever in the post. I thought it would be funny. If you don't think it was, then I apologize.

I explained this. I used your name b/c it seemed to me that you're the one that states that particular opinion most often on the board. That's all. If Dan was always saying that he hated girls basketball, I would've used Dan's name.

I agree with you 100%, and already said as much.

Again, it was intended to be a joke. I'm sorry that you felt it was out of line. I apologize, I graciously accept your admonition. I am clearly out of touch with reality. Thank you for enlightening me.

And I also apologize to the rest of the board. I never imagined that this thread would turn into this kind of discussion; and obviously, I should have. Definitely my bad.

Chuck

[Edited by ChuckElias on Jun 3rd, 2003 at 05:59 PM]

Stream of unconsciousness. Jurassic Referee, Jurassic Park, Jurassic Pork, Porky. . . whatever it takes.

My cat's name is Madison. That went to Maddy, then Fatty, then Fatto, to Fat Slob, so now we just call her the Slob. Same thing.

Just to be clear, I'm not calling you a cat. I'm not trying to turn your screen name into an emotional issue. :(

Chuck

Re: Re: No harm here, just the truth.
 

Hey dumb ***, ;) I do that all the time when I am spelling a name. I have no clue how to spell her name. But then again, you really read my posts.!!

Peace

Oh!

Btw,I had a dog once that I called "Porky"!(ask me why,ask me why...)

Interesting. . . Even with all my shortcomings, I don't see the "(sp?)" after Annika's name. . .

And by the way, how does "dumb@$$" get a winkie face? I don't hear "dumb@$$" as a term of endearment very often. But that could just be my area of the country, obviously.

[Edited by ChuckElias on Jun 3rd, 2003 at 06:25 PM]

Why? Why?!? :D

"Cause he screwed pigs!

There! Maybe that'll bring this dumb-a$$ :D thread to a close.

Re: Re: Re: Re: No harm here, just the truth.
 

Can someone just repond to your silly behind without it being a battle. You post something with my name and attribute the attitude to me and you take it as a battle because I respond to you? Who is the one that needs to lighten up.


You very much implied that I had no right to say anything to you about "overstating" or whatever word you choose to attribute to me. But then again, you do what you do. Not an issue here.

And all I am saying is, I am not the only voice that feels that way. I am sorry your only interaction with officials is on this board, but I am not looking at it from just this board. Which is why an ESPN Website posted that point of view.

I am not like others here. I can at the very least understand that stripes can speak for himself. I have an understanding of his point of view, but unlike others here, I do not claim I completely understand. He is a grown man and probably a very good official and he can tell you ultimitely thinks about it. I am just editorializing his comments with the understanding that he will eventually tell you in the end what he meant if you were not clear.


If you did not want me to comment, then you should not have used my name to make your joke. I for one am not going to have you use my point of view and not comment at all. I have no concern other than to state that I am not alone. And if I was alone, stripes would have never chimed in on the issue.



And I would expect Dan to say something if that was the case. I do not think anyone would be mad at him or say he did not get the joke if he did so. But then again if I respond <b>STOP THE DAMN PRESSES</b>


I did not say you were out of touch of anything. I just find it funny that you bring my opinion up, then take issue with me saying something about it. And I do understand that I am one of the top 5 posters on this board and anything I say is going to be some history behind those words and that is fair game. I am just saying to you that "I am not the only one." That is all. But as usually you think I am mad or upset because I respond. Wow, where did you get that routine from?


Not that is funny. :D

Peace

Well when people spell both of my names, they spell them wrong all the time. You do not see me jumping down their throats for doing that. But then again, you have a sense of humor right?

Maybe because you are around a bunch of stiffs that take life too seriously and never have any fun. I just this past weekend got called all kinds of names and the people saying were laughing. So maybe you need some fun in your life. Because as I keep saying, this is just a discussion board. This is not a place to write a Doctoral Thesis or to get a degree or to even write a formal letter to an association. It is just a place to discuss a silly sport, which is not important to anyone but the people here. Probably too important I can see. :rolleyes:

Peace

Apparently, Rut, I have completely misunderstood every word you've ever typed on this board. I apologize. When I have disagreed with you, clearly it's b/c I'm an idiot and cannot grasp your posts.

I am deeply sorry. Please be assured that I know that there are many people who prefer men's basketball to women's, and I never thought that only you had that preference. I obviously did not state that clearly enough and again, I apologize.

I meant to make a joke. It didn't turn out that way. I apologize. I'm done with this thread. "People Skills" was fun once, but I'm not willing to do it again.

TWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

OK, that's it. Everybody just shut up. Now.

Un. F@cking. Believable.

If you feel that way...............
 

If you feel that way, I am not going to disagree with you. ;)

If you feel that way, I am suuuurreeelly not going to disagree with you here either.


If it was meant as a joke, why are you getting so huffy and puffy over my comments to you. Seems like you cannot take a little banter when it is thrown back at you.

BTW, this is always fun. ;)

Peace

Chuck, the great thing about starting a thread is that you always have the perogative of deleting it if you like.

(HINT! HINT!! HINT!!) ;)

Uhmmmm, Dan? I'm a little confused here....please tell us EXACTLY how you feel about this. No more beating around the bush or skirting the issue...just lay it all out there for us, OK??? Good...I knew you could do it!!! :)

Chuck,
You should have attributed the article to me.
There wouldn't have been any problems.

You'd think Rut'd be happy to have it attributed to him:
it was funny and well written....when's the last time
you could say that about anything written by Rut?

While I have no problems with young, shapely women in s (ok, I'll admit it, I have an affinity for it)playing volleyball, I was referring to the volleyball played on a court. :D

No doubt there are great differences in the appeal of certain men's vs. women's sports to me. For instance, I just can't get into men's mud wrestling.

Yes, and I would much rather go to Hooters than to a restaurant named after any part of the male anatomy...

I know. There really isn't anything appealing to me about a restaurant named "The Receding Hairline".

How about "The Paunchy Belly"??? Or maybe "The Achy Knees"???

This pretty much sums up the whole thread!

If a kid says "f@cking", is that a T?

Looks kind of like an email address to me. Only thing missing is the 3 letter extension. :)





[Edited by mikesears on Jun 4th, 2003 at 02:40 PM]

If this were a test question, I would say "True", but in real life, I would use my tremendous amount of "presence" and diffuse the situation without calling the T...unless of course it was any brand of women's ball, in which case I would not only T the potty-mouthed female, but would probably also eject her, as that type of behavior should not be allowed in the "purer" game of women's ball (beside that, the three fans in attendance would be offended by that kind of language?...:)

All the time.
 

Actually it is said all the time by certain folks that have open minds. Better yet, if it was not well written, there would be nothing to oppose. But then again, I guess Chuck did not understand anything I said, that is why he kept responding. ;)

Peace

Re: All the time.
 

>Actually it is said all the time by certain folks that have open minds.

An open mind isn't hear nor their.
Your saying people with open minds think your right well?

>Better yet, if it was not well written, there would be nothing to oppose. But then again, I guess Chuck did not understand anything I said...

Sorry, i don't understand those double negatives either.
Are you saying folks are opposed to poor writting? I liked
both the content and the style. Or are you saying you are
opposed to it BECAUSE it was well written?

;-/

That is why you are responding.........
 

because <b>YOU have no idea what I am saying.</b> But then again, that is why YOU just posted. But you might do so again, because of all the grammatical errors that I seem to make over anyone that posts on this board. I will remember that the next time you disagree with one of my posts.

Just something to think about. ;)

Peace