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26 Year Gap Sat Feb 11, 2012 02:07pm

NFHS survey questionnaire
 
NFHS | NFHS Sport Questionnaires
Open until March 5th....

grunewar Sat Feb 11, 2012 02:12pm

Thanks Gapper!

SNIPERBBB Sat Feb 11, 2012 07:11pm

4. Permitting players in marked spaces along the free-throw lane to break the plane when the try is released (currently players are restricted until the ball hits the rim).

Odds of this coming back?

fortmoney Sat Feb 11, 2012 09:20pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 822933)
4. Permitting players in marked spaces along the free-throw lane to break the plane when the try is released (currently players are restricted until the ball hits the rim).

Odds of this coming back?

I hope so. Waiting until it hits the rim really gives no advantage to the players on the lower block. The middle (offensive players) seem to have the same chance to get the rebound

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Feb 11, 2012 09:25pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 822933)
4. Permitting players in marked spaces along the free-throw lane to break the plane when the try is released (currently players are restricted until the ball hits the rim).

Odds of this coming back?


The fact that this question is on the survey means we, as officials, are not doing our job of enforcing the rule. This was the reason that the NCAA and NFHS adopted the rule allowing the players to enter on the release a long long time ago.

The NFHS went back to the old rule because the new rule was causing rough play and we were to call fouls during rebounding action just like we would during rebounding action during FG attempts.

MTD, Sr.

26 Year Gap Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:15pm

You'll notice that the coaches calling for a TO only during a dead ball is back. I hope the coaches are not stuffing the ballot box.

Adam Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:27pm

Shooters seem more likely to get rebounds now, I'd like to see the lane restrictions end on the release.

26 Year Gap Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:44pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 822958)
Shooters seem more likely to get rebounds now, I'd like to see the lane restrictions end on the release.

Both of my stints as an official have been leaving when it hits the rim. Not sure how, as lead, I would be easily able to see the shooter's release since I am focusing on the players across from me with the rim in sight. (Along with the player in the first lane space closest to me, of course). If that change is made, I will surely be coming here for advice.

APG Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:48pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 822960)
Both of my stints as an official have been leaving when it hits the rim. Not sure how, as lead, I would be easily able to see the shooter's release since I am focusing on the players across from me with the rim in sight. (Along with the player in the first lane space closest to me, of course). If that change is made, I will surely be coming here for advice.

Good ole peripheral vision

refiator Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:55pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 822958)
Shooters seem more likely to get rebounds now, I'd like to see the lane restrictions end on the release.

I have mixed feelings on this. The rule is definitely not being enforced as it should. NFHS either needs to make this a serious POE or move on and change it. IMHO.

APG Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:04pm

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Originally Posted by refiator (Post 822963)
I have mixed feelings on this. The rule is definitely not being enforced as it should. NFHS either needs to make this a serious POE or move on and change it. IMHO.

NFHS has made it a POE in the past. The reality of the situation is NFHS has no power to make sure this is enforced. The only thing they can do is change the rule. Just like when they changed the leaving the court for an unauthorized reason (or was it excessive swinging of the elbows?) from a T to a violation because officials weren't calling it.

SNIPERBBB Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:15pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 822966)
NFHS has made it a POE in the past. The reality of the situation is NFHS has no power to make sure this is enforced. The only thing they can do is change the rule. Just like when they changed the leaving the court for an unauthorized reason (or was it excessive swinging of the elbows?) from a T to a violation because officials weren't calling it.

Both.


In the case of the former I know of one case where one official made this call,improperly,20 times in a game back when this was a T.

APG Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:24pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 822967)
Both.


In the case of the former I know of one case where one official made this call,improperly,20 times in a game back when this was a T.

Good lord! :eek:

Camron Rust Sun Feb 12, 2012 03:50am

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 822960)
Both of my stints as an official have been leaving when it hits the rim. Not sure how, as lead, I would be easily able to see the shooter's release since I am focusing on the players across from me with the rim in sight. (Along with the player in the first lane space closest to me, of course). If that change is made, I will surely be coming here for advice.

It is really not any different than watching for it to hit the rim and watching the players. When player can enter on the release, you no longer care about the rim and can shift your focus a little more towards the shooter....maybe taking a slight closer position.

26 Year Gap Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:16am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 822998)
It is really not any different than watching for it to hit the rim and watching the players. When player can enter on the release, you no longer care about the rim and can shift your focus a little more towards the shooter....maybe taking a slight closer position.

I think they might wait another year if the mechanics manual needs an update.


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