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ranjo Fri Feb 10, 2012 08:30pm

I saw if for the first time last night
 
I have seen a lot of b-ball in the last 15-20 years, but while watching a game last night, I got to see something different.

Boys JV - The game winner has been determined earlier in the quarter and the subs from both teams are playing their hearts out. Last shot of the game; Ball goes up, rolls around the rim, rolls onto the flange, horn goes off, and the ball comes to rest on the flange.

It was a crowd pleaser for sure and everyone leaves the gym with a smile.

It's the first time I have ever seen it and I was wondering how often it really happens - How many of you have actually seen it happen?

La Rikardo Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:16am

Only time I've ever seen it happen was when my friends and I were shooting around the other day. Never seen it in an actual game.

refiator Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:22am

Actually had it once on a free throw.....

just another ref Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranjo (Post 822693)
Last shot of the game; Ball goes up, rolls around the rim, rolls onto the flange, horn goes off, and the ball comes to rest on the flange.


Good chance for a "never will happen in my lifetime" debate. If this happened in a game with a tie score, how long would you wait after the buzzer before you would call the ball dead and go to overtime?

bob jenkins Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:40am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 822748)
Good chance for a "never will happen in my lifetime" debate. If this happened in a game with a tie score, how long would you wait after the buzzer before you would call the ball dead and go to overtime?

Just as long as you'd wait if it happend with 3:48 reamining in the first quarter.

just another ref Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 822753)
Just as long as you'd wait if it happend with 3:48 reamining in the first quarter.

Touche' The point was, the ball comes to rest, you have a brief pause while you convince yourself it has stopped completely, you blow it dead. Then, a fraction of a second later, vibrations caused by a passing truck cause the ball to fall in for an apparent game winner. I love this job.



Dumb question. Sorry, boss.

grunewar Sat Feb 11, 2012 02:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranjo (Post 822693)
How many of you have actually seen it happen?

Never seen it that I can recall.

Similarly, I did have a ball wedge between the flange and the backboard the other night. Right after my P blew the whistle, the ball dropped to the court. Same ole, same ole.

26 Year Gap Sat Feb 11, 2012 02:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 822757)
Touche' The point was, the ball comes to rest, you have a brief pause while you convince yourself it has stopped completely, you blow it dead. Then, a fraction of a second later, vibrations caused by a passing truck cause the ball to fall in for an apparent game winner. I love this job.



Dumb question. Sorry, boss.

"I just know there will be a big gust of wind to knock in that putt I left short."

justaref61 Sat Feb 11, 2012 03:10pm

I have actually seen this happen twice in ONE game! It was a boys middle school game. My partner and I could not believe it happened TWICE. Another interesting thing that happened in a game me and the same partner did was to have a shot go up from the end line corner, opposite side of the court from me as lead; I watched the players underneath for the rebounding action and everyone just stopped and all of them were looking up at the back board. After a second or two of this inactivity I looked up and the ball was rolling as slowly as it could on top of the backboard. It rolled the entire length of the back board and fell off the other side were we continued with the game. It was interesting how quite the entire gym was during the time the ball rolled the length of the back board.

BillyMac Sat Feb 11, 2012 04:12pm

Once In A Million Years ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justaref61 (Post 822881)
The ball was rolling as slowly as it could on top of the backboard. It rolled the entire length of the back board and fell off the other side were we continued with the game. It was interesting how quite the entire gym was during the time the ball rolled the length of the back board.

What if the ball had rolled to a stop on the top of the backboard? You make the call. By the book. Pretend it's a written exam question.

JugglingReferee Sat Feb 11, 2012 05:13pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 822880)
"I just know there will be a big gust of wind to knock in that putt I left short."

About 15 years ago, I'm in a referee charitable golf tournament. The group behind me had an up-and-comer with 3 veteran colleagues. It was quite windy that day.

On one hole, either 15 or 16, it's an uphill hole, where you can't see if the next group is done putting. And the wind was behind the golfers on this hole.

I was the last putter, and the up-and-comer drove a bullet shot up the hill. They thought he barely made it up the hill. And he did. Buuuut, I snuck down and "advanced" his ball to be within a 10 foot putt. He made the putt, and ended up with an eagle on the hole. He was all the talk at the steak dinner, and I kept my mouth shut. lol

bob jenkins Sat Feb 11, 2012 06:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 822894)
What if the ball had rolled to a stop on the top of the backboard? You make the call. By the book. Pretend it's a written exam question.

Options:

a) let the clock run out
b) call it dead and use the arrow (2-3)
c) allow someone (or multiple someones) to slap the backboard and play the ball as it bounces down (or OOB if it falls off the back)

Adam Sat Feb 11, 2012 07:08pm

4. First coach to stand and ask for a held ball or violation gets a T.

Loudwhistle2 Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:05pm

Saw it 4 years ago during a freethrow! Two years ago the ball rolled part way across the top of the back board and dropped off right through the basket. I've never seen it bounce off a player and go in.

ga314ref Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:15am

I've often wondered...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 822903)
About 15 years ago, I'm in a referee charitable golf tournament. The group behind me had an up-and-comer with 3 veteran colleagues. It was quite windy that day.

On one hole, either 15 or 16, it's an uphill hole, where you can't see if the next group is done putting. And the wind was behind the golfers on this hole.

I was the last putter, and the up-and-comer drove a bullet shot up the hill. They thought he barely made it up the hill. And he did. Buuuut, I snuck down and "advanced" his ball to be within a 10 foot putt. He made the putt, and ended up with an eagle on the hole. He was all the talk at the steak dinner, and I kept my mouth shut. lol

...if there are people who do things like this.


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