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BktBallRef Thu May 22, 2003 08:15pm

Has anyone else noticed how poor the picture quality is when ESPN or ABC broadcasts a game? It looks like the Knicks-Lakers from 1970. TNT games have a much brighter and clearer picture. What gives?

mick Fri May 23, 2003 08:44am

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Has anyone else noticed how poor the picture quality is when ESPN or ABC broadcasts a game? It looks like the Knicks-Lakers from 1970. TNT games have a much brighter and clearer picture. What gives?
The picture may be fuzzy, but the outcome seems clear. ;)

Camron Rust Fri May 23, 2003 01:13pm

What is the delivery mechanism? Analog Cable? Dish Network? DirecTV? Rooftop Antenna? C or Ku band Analog Satellite?

In my experience, the quality problems are more often a result of the delivery, not the generation of the program.

Usually, the quality order is (from best to worst, and not considering HDTV options):

C/Ku-band Satellite
Rooftop Antenna
Dish Network
DirectTV
Analog Cable

Digital cable varies from town to town. It can rival the digital satellite providers but often is no better than Analog cable due to excessive compression.

The C/Ku-band satellite broadcast (sometimes in a higher quality digital form) is often the original from which all the others are derived.

BktBallRef Fri May 23, 2003 01:25pm

In this case, I'm comparing apples to apples. Whether I'm watching my C band dish, cable, or DirecTV, the picture quality is so much better on TNT than the fuzzy, foogy picutre on ABC or ESPN.

Notice tonight how good the TNT picture is, then compare it to the ABC broadcast tomorrow night.

Dan_ref Fri May 23, 2003 05:28pm

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
In this case, I'm comparing apples to apples. Whether I'm watching my C band dish, cable, or DirecTV, the picture quality is so much better on TNT than the fuzzy, foogy picutre on ABC or ESPN.

Notice tonight how good the TNT picture is, then compare it to the ABC broadcast tomorrow night.

This is interesting, I'll take notice tonight. If you get the same difference in quality on all your receptions then the problem must be in how TNT transcodes & uplinks their content vs ABC/ESPN (Disney, no?)...I myself have seen differences between MSG Knick games & TNT Knick games (occasionally both deliver the same game), the MSG content does seem "washed out" (narrower color range) compared to the TNT content and the audio seems to be of lesser quality as well.

Also could be a camera issue, but I can't believe that TNT's camera are better than ABC's. (Maybe TNT uses HD cameras converted down to NTSC for b'cast? Who knows...)

Also could be that Tony's just plain nuts.

http://www.epsilon2.demon.co.uk/nuts.gif

BktBallRef Fri May 23, 2003 08:02pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
In this case, I'm comparing apples to apples. Whether I'm watching my C band dish, cable, or DirecTV, the picture quality is so much better on TNT than the fuzzy, foogy picutre on ABC or ESPN.

Notice tonight how good the TNT picture is, then compare it to the ABC broadcast tomorrow night.

This is interesting, I'll take notice tonight. If you get the same difference in quality on all your receptions then the problem must be in how TNT transcodes & uplinks their content vs ABC/ESPN (Disney, no?)...I myself have seen differences between MSG Knick games & TNT Knick games (occasionally both deliver the same game), the MSG content does seem "washed out" (narrower color range) compared to the TNT content and the audio seems to be of lesser quality as well.

Also could be a camera issue, but I can't believe that TNT's camera are better than ABC's. (Maybe TNT uses HD cameras converted down to NTSC for b'cast? Who knows...)

Also could be that Tony's just plain nuts.

Hell ya I'm nuts! What's that got to do with it? :D

I'm telling you Dan, ABC's picture quality looks like it did when they had the NBA back in the seventies. Maybe they left the cameras in the arenas for the last 25 years. :)

BTW, I'd rather be nuts than short! ;)

Dan_ref Fri May 23, 2003 08:07pm

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Originally posted by BktBallRef


BTW, I'd rather be nuts than short! ;)

Sigh...OK, but you asked for it

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BktBallRef Sat May 24, 2003 01:27pm

LOL! :D My friend Chuck!!! :D


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