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Gargil Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:40am

Correctable Error
 
Freshman game last night, near the end of second quarter my partner calls a foul on blue team, 32 seconds on the clock, white inbounds ball then 15 seconds later the table sounds the horn, we stop play and they inform us that white is in the bonus. We put the 15 seconds back on the clock then shot the freethrows. I am wondering if we should have put the time back on the clock?? I

Adam Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:43am

No, you shouldn't have put time back on the clock. Had white lost possession at any point before you blew it dead?

Toren Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:44am

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Originally Posted by Gargil (Post 818983)
Freshman game last night, near the end of second quarter my partner calls a foul on blue team, 32 seconds on the clock, white inbounds ball then 15 seconds later the table sounds the horn, we stop play and they inform us that white is in the bonus. We put the 15 seconds back on the clock then shot the freethrows. I am wondering if we should have put the time back on the clock?? I

You do not put time back on.

Gargil Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:07pm

No, it was the first possesion so I knew we were OK to shoot the freethrows, I was unsure about the time issue. I will have to chalk that up to a learning experience.

Adam Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:09pm

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Originally Posted by Gargil (Post 818996)
No, it was the first possesion so I knew we were OK to shoot the freethrows, I was unsure about the time issue. I will have to chalk that up to a learning experience.

I was more concerned with whether you should have shot them with the lane cleared or not.

Gargil Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:49pm

What would the situation be to shoot them with the lane cleared? Should we have shot the freethrows then went to POI?

mbyron Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:51pm

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Originally Posted by Gargil (Post 819015)
What would the situation be to shoot them with the lane cleared? Should we have shot the freethrows then went to POI?

Yes. If POI is team control, shoot with the lane cleared and give the ball back to the team in control.

Adam Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:56pm

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Originally Posted by Gargil (Post 819015)
What would the situation be to shoot them with the lane cleared? Should we have shot the freethrows then went to POI?

You gave the throw-in to white rather than the FTs. If the visitors had gained control or had a throw-in due (from a violation, foul, or score) before your whistle blew for the CE, then you would clear the lane and resume with POI.

Gargil Wed Feb 01, 2012 02:59pm

Understood, I appreciate the lesson. It is a situation I will handle with confidence in the future. Thanks Snaqs!

rwest Wed Feb 01, 2012 03:08pm

Not exactly correct
 
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 819016)
Yes. If POI is team control, shoot with the lane cleared and give the ball back to the team in control.

If team possession had changed then you shoot with lane cleared and then go with POI and give the ball back to team in control. If White was in team control and there had been no change in possession then we line them up. Just as Snaqwell said.

Sco53 Thu Feb 02, 2012 09:25am

Stayed to watch GV after my freshman game last nite. Close game, about 2 minutes left in 4th Q. 10th foul on V, H lines up and refs all signal 2 shots. 1st shot misses and V grabs the rebound and everyone goes to the other end, about 4-5 passes, the horn blows. They come back down and H shoots her second free throw with the lane filled. Kind of neat to see after reading this thread earlier in the day. Well officiated game- 2 of the 3 refs were state finals guys.

Toren Thu Feb 02, 2012 09:30am

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Originally Posted by Sco53 (Post 819339)
Stayed to watch GV after my freshman game last nite. Close game, about 2 minutes left in 4th Q. 10th foul on V, H lines up and refs all signal 2 shots. 1st shot misses and V grabs the rebound and everyone goes to the other end, about 4-5 passes, the horn blows. They come back down and H shoots her second free throw with the lane filled. Kind of neat to see after reading this thread earlier in the day. Well officiated game- 2 of the 3 refs were state finals guys.

I'm pretty sure the rebound by V counts as a change of possession and they should have gone POI. So award the second free throw, lane cleared.

Oh Correctable Error, how you haunt my dreams :eek:

Sco53 Thu Feb 02, 2012 09:45am

2.10.1 Situation A
Team B securing the rebound and passing to a teammate constitutes no change in team possession

Toren Thu Feb 02, 2012 09:51am

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Originally Posted by Sco53 (Post 819354)
2.10.1 Situation A
Team B securing the rebound and passing to a teammate constitutes no change in team possession

This is why it's best to not have a CE situation...I don't know how to administer :confused:

Camron Rust Thu Feb 02, 2012 07:29pm

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Originally Posted by Sco53 (Post 819354)
2.10.1 Situation A
Team B securing the rebound and passing to a teammate constitutes no change in team possession

FYI, it used to be the exact opposite....and the rationale WAS that it was A's possession during the FT and B's possession once they got the rebound. Not sure why they decided to flip it, but they did.


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