iPad on the bench
 

Had to deal wtih the iPad on the bench the other night at a varsity girls game. Assistant coach was holding it when we went over before the game to introduce ourselves.

Thanks to all the posts on this forum, I told the head coach it could not be used. She was not happy...and made quite clear that I was the only ref to ban it this season.

Other than the "informal" opinions I have seen posted here (from NFHS and from IAABO), is there specific, formal guidance on this issue?

Verboten, Not Even To Play Minesweeper ...
 

Our local IAABO board interpreter recently told us that iPads, and other tablet computers, are not allowed on the bench. Period. All I know is that this is a local IAABO ruling. I don't know if it came from the state board , or from IAABO international? I just deleted his email, so I can't give you his exact ruling. I do know that there is a commercial on television, I guess, for iPads, that shows a basketball coach using his tablet computer to set up some plays for his players.

Here's another entire discussion on the matter. Several differing opinions.

Some say stats only. As Billy says, check your local board.

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...pad-bench.html

Tom Lopes, executive director (or something like that) has issued an official ruling from IAABO.

We had an assistant coach using one the other day. He was keeping a book on it and had one of the courrt diagram apps, as well.

I think I said something like, "Cool. First horn."

Check Your Local Listings ...
 

I organized some of these, from grunewar's link, for easy comparison:

Missouri:
The purpose of this email to clarify the use of iPads and other personal computers by coaches during basketball contests. NFHS Basketball Rule 10-1-3: Use television monitoring or replay equipment or computers (other than for statistics) for coaching purposes during the game or any intermission or use a megaphone or any mechanical sounding device or any electronic transmission device at courtside for coaching purposes, or electronic equipment for voice communication with players. The NFHS Office has issued the following statement: “The use of an iPad or computer is approved as long as they are just replacing a traditional paper alternative, they would meet the spirit and intent of the rule and be permitted. If they are being used to review video or some type of electronic communication, they are prohibited.” The penalty for violating rule 10-1-3 is a team technical foul. Please refer to the NFHS Basketball Case Book: 10.1.3A and 10.1.3B for examples. Applications are available for the ipad to be used like a marker board. This is acceptable as long as it is not used to review video or other forms of electronic communication.

Colorado:
All electronic devices are banned from the sideline/bench.

Ontario (IAABO):
IAABO Executive Director Tom Lopes has confirmed that the use of an "I-Pad is not permissible." This falls under rule 10, section 1, article 3 - "A team shall not use television monitoring or replay equipment or computers (other than for statistics) for coaching purposes during the game or any intermission..."

NFHS:
10-2-3 definitely needs to be updated to keep up with technological advances, but a computer or iPad could be used for anything that paper could have done (stats, draw up plays, etc.). Basically, the only things they can’t be used for are electronic communication with players (speaking to them thru the device and a receiver) and video replay. Yes, it’s difficult for officials to “police” what the devices are being used for, but most officials and state offices assume teams/coaches are in compliance unless proven otherwise. If you want to have a state-wide prohibition against these devices, that would be up to you. But they are permitted, with a few restrictions, by rule.

NCAA-M:
iPads are prohibited from being on the bench, even if just used to keep stats. While the keeping of statistics on a computer or iPad may seem innocent enough and may not fall completely within the parameters of these restrictions, any exception to permit the keeping of statistics would be difficult if not impossible to enforce since the same equipment could be used to send and receive information.

Well the IHSA apparantly ruled on this issue. Here is the bulletin from our website.

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Case Situations
1.4.12


Some observations and a response to a question that arose during the holidays.

1. Questions arose about the use of iPads by teams during games. Rule 10-3 is clear that if iPads or computers are being used for taking statistics, they can be used. This would include taking statistics using an iPad and then taking the iPad into the locker room at halftime. In this usage, the iPad is no different than a clipboard. However, iPads can't be used to take pictures or film sequences of play and used on the bench or in the locker room by coaches during a game. Rule 10-3 is clear against the use of computers/iPads in that manner. Officials might want to ask during the pre-game coaches/captains meeting whether a school uses such technology or not, and if one does, remind the head coach what Rule 10-3 allows.

Peace

Don't you love how the IHSA ruling says nothing about using the court apps to diagram plays! That would seem to be the most common usage and most important to have a clear decision upon.

Actually the very few times I have seen them used, I have never seen a court diagram used. I still see the dry-erase boards used all the time and pretty much exclusively. I have never seen an IPad used for anything but keeping some stats and is usually used by a person that is not technically a coach. And those times have only been once or twice I have ever seen them on the bench. Actually I have seen preachers use an IPad during a sermon that I have ever seen used in a sporting event.

Peace

I sent an email about this and our state office received a reply from Mary Struckhoff. The following is her reply:

"10-2-3 definitely needs to be updated to keep up with technological advances, but a computer or iPad could be used for anything that paper could have done (stats, draw up plays, etc.). Basically, the only things they can’t be used for are electronic communication with players (speaking to them thru the device and a receiver) and video replay.

Yes, it’s difficult for officials to “police” what the devices are being used for, but most officials and state offices assume teams/coaches are in compliance unless proven otherwise. If you want to have a state-wide prohibition against these devices, that would be up to you. But they are permitted, with a few restrictions, by rule."

When I checked the rules on this a few weeks ago, I did not find anything prohibiting taking video from the bench (as long as it is not reviewed during the game). Is this an interpretation or did I just miss the rule?

Basically, I took their interp to say if they aren't being used for statistics then they can't be used.

I took it to mean the same thing that Missouri has said: If they are doing something that you can do on a clipboard/dry erase board, they're okay. (Stats, diagram plays, etc)

Contrary to previous reports that said an IAABO ruling had forbidden iPads, the IAABO position matches the Illinois ruling.

If they are being used for statistics, they are legal. If they are being used for video or as a whiteboard, they are not legal. That is the word from Peter Webb, who is the IAABO rules coordinator.

I had another game this week with an iPad on the bench. I noticed it during the national anthem and pointed it out to my partner, who was the R that night. He asked the coach if he was planning to use it during the game and the coach said, "Yes. But only for statistics." Then the coach told his assistant that it could only be used for stats.

I expect that the rule will be updated or a case play introduced next year to deal with iPads.

I-pads
 

Minnesota just notified officials that an ipad on the bench is legal under the following circumstances.

Use of iPads or similar devices: Although not specifically covered in the rule book, iPads are allowed on the bench and may be used during the game, but only in a manner in which does not create a distinct advantage over the opponent. iPads may be used to take statistics (same as clipboards or computers); may be used for live stat programs that are now available; and may be used ways that a clipboard would be used (to diagram plays for example). iPads or any other device may not be used from the bench to take pictures or video. You are asked to check with coaches prior to the game to see if iPads will be in use and if so to then outline how they may be used. Inappropriate use of an iPad or other electronic device is a Bench Technical, charged to the head coach. You should not spend any more time monitoring this issue than what you currently do to monitor the use of cell phones or other electronic devices on the bench.

From Uniform Police......
 

to Technology Police.......

In MA ...
 

Talked to our board interpreter today. He said this had been discussed by the powers that be in MA (MIAA) and that iPads are not permitted.

That's cool. At least there's a few of us I.T. guys.

Conversely, any haberdashers in the house?

No, but in my line of work we'd want to know in what sense haberdashery is the converse of I.T. :p

Well, we went from fashion police to tech police. Two options, so I found "conversely" applicable.

I checked the rule again and see where I might have missed it:

10-1-3

Use television monitoring or replay equipment or computers (other than for statistics) for coaching purposes during the game or any intermission or use a megaphone or any mechanical sounding device or any electronic transmission device at courtside for coaching purposes, or electronic equipment for voice communication with players.

So if they are recording video from their iPad but not reviewing, would we say this is illegal?

I don't really care what brand of shoes they wear.

That's what you went for? Not "haberdashers?" :p

Friggin Amazing.......
 

One of my P's and I got to our game early the other night to evaluate the JV officials. As we sat in the stands near the top of the smallish gym, he had his iPAD out and was recording the game. It was fantastic!

Picture was clear and you could get the entire half the gym in the picture as well as the two officials. Light, easy to move and follow the game, and provide ongoing commentary, etc. He said the batteriy lasts a long time and he could hold ~ three full games on it at once. I was very impressed!

BillyMac and Zoochy:

Both of you have stated in this thread and another one that the NFHS has made a statement concerning iPad and like devices on the bench. I have tried to find it but haven't found it so far. Billy, if you can find it, please email me a copy or a link to it, and Zoochy, just send me a PM requesting my email address. As you well know, the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee Chairman is an OhioHSAA Assistant Commissioner, and on Friday, January 27, 2012, the OhioHSAA came out with a statement that may have contradicted the NFHS Statement. I would like to compare the two statements and keep the group posted. Thanks.

MTD, Sr.

Keep Us Updated ...
 

The only thing I've heard is from our local IAABO board interpreter, who told us back in December that iPads, and other tablet computers, are not allowed on the bench. Period. All I know is that this is a local IAABO ruling. I don't know if it came from the state board, or from IAABO international?

Any reference that I gave in this thread about the NFHS ruling, I got from this thread, and was just copying it.

Sorry.

Also, I was with my local interpreter when he was approached by an athletic director that had a tablet computer with a real cool program. It is an "electronic scorebook", names, points, fouls, team fouls, timeouts, the whole nine yards. And it's somehow connected, by WiFi "magic" to the scoreboard on the wall. "Mark" a basket for Johnny Smith in the "electronic scorebook" and the two points show up on the scoreboard on the wall. And at the end of the game, the athletic director can instantly email the results of the game, with a full box score, to the local newspaper. He also showed us the "electronic whiteboard" by which a coach can diagram plays on the tablet.

Amazing.

The NFHS has got to respond to the fact that this is the 21st century, the Digital Age.

I have tried to find such a ruling from IAABO and cannot locate one. Indeed, the official IAABO position is in the current issue of the Sportorials newsletter, where Peter Webb, the coordinator of interpreters said this:

Electric Equipment Use On The Team Bench - As per 10.1.3,
such equipment can be used for only recording statistics. A state
association may over ride this rule and rule some equipment legal
or restrict all such equipment from bench use.

Someone else posted here a while back that the MIAA (the H.S. governing authority in Mass.) was planning a ban. It is not. I have an email from the MIAA which says iPads are legal for statistics only -- exactly as the rule allows.

Interesting. Our local IAABO interpreter said that they're legal, provided that they're used for statistical purposes, and not video. I haven't seen one yet, quite frankly.

IAABO has said that they're not to be used.

I don't think your local IAABO interp can over-interp Tom's ruling. :confused:

Two observations....

1) Regardless of whether they're allowed on the bench, several school that I've been to have notices on locker rooms that cell phones with cameras, ipads etc (or some combination of the above) are not allowed in said locker room. But like anything else I wonder how it well its enforced/paid attention to before, halftime of, and after games for those programs that use them on the bench during the game (or any other time for that matter).

2) Can you imagine explaining to wife/gf/so/boss/yourself why you need to replace a $499 ipad after it got slammed onto a chair when a $10 clipboard can do the same thing? Maybe its a good thing after all and make them think twice about throwing a tantrum. :eek:

IAABO has said no such thing. This is the only "official" position that IAABO has taken (from the current issue of the Sportorials newsletter):

Electric Equipment Use On The Team Bench - As per 10.1.3,
such equipment can be used for only recording statistics. A state
association may over ride this rule and rule some equipment legal
or restrict all such equipment from bench use.

Yep, Tom Lopes' email was pretty clear.
Colorado has actually gone a step further and disallowed any electronic divices on the bench because there's no way to determine whether they're being used for statistical purposes.

There it is, then. Again, I haven't seen any such equipment yet, but we all have our local/state rulings to follow.

The spam above is actually kinda funny. I would love to see coaches using signalling jamming devices to thwart each other's use of iPads. :D

True, but I deleted it anyway. :)

I've seen it several times already. With the new guidance out this yr, I expect it to become more and more prevalent - and I don't expect any issues with the video portion which remains prohibited.

From NFHS ...
 

COMMENTS ON THE 2013-14 RULES CHANGE
USE OF ELECTRONIC DEVICES (1-19 NEW and 10-1-3): The previous rule was difficult to monitor and enforce by the contest officials. This rule allows the coach to take advantage of electronic tools available for use in coaching and gathering statistics. While in use, the coach must be in compliance with the guidelines that specify that electronic devices may not be used to communicate with the players on the playing floor nor can the devise be used to dispute an official's call.

This means that if after a call, the coach throws the device at your head, you can issue a T.