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2 Pre Game Techs
Anyone ever started a game with a technical foul? I think most officials do everything they can to avoid this but obviously sometimes it is warranted.
We had a game recently here where a team was issued 2 technicals for pre-game dunks. Just wondering what others would do avoid this, if anything. Coach called me this morning about the crew and claims that he did not have any time to address the first tech with his team before the second was called. I wasn't there, but wonder if the second tech could have been avoided by better management. Wish I had seen what transpired. |
Well, what happened exactly?
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Coach should have addressed this in practice, not relied on the refs to somehow give him time. Stupid whiners.
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Yes actually had one tonight before the game for illegal uniforms (do not get me started). :rolleyes:
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You know the entire team has the same jersey that is illegal jersey and they are about to participate in that game (starters and subs). Oh and we do not work for the NF, the powers that be want a T for this before the game, which is their right to interpret the rules or make the rule more punitive if they choose. So you can save all your interpretations, semantics or even word play, no one cares what you think around here. Peace |
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I will give you a day to come up with a name too. :D Peace |
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The Mythbusters Can't Handle This One ...
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I am not about to become the third man in the ring for the MMA Smackdown between Rut and Nevada, BUT:
"NFHS Casebook Play 3.4.5 SITUATION: Prior to the jump ball to start the game, the officials observe that the five Team B starters are all wearing pants which have (a) a manufacturer's logo and a school's mascot which meets the proper dimension limitations; or (b) a manufacturer's logo that exceeds the limitation of 2¼ square inches by 2¼ square inches in any one dimension. RULING: Legal uniforms in (a). In (b), illegal pants. The Team B head coach is charged directly with a technical foul. (R3-S6-A2; R10-S5-A4)" seems to support Rut's imposition of a TF. I would assume that Rut and his partners noticed this well before the start of the game and approached the HC to see if the team would be able to rectify the problem before the start of the game so that there would be no need for a TF charged to the HC. And I agree with Rut, I do not like having to be a fashion policeman. MTD, Sr. P.S. I agree with Snaqs and Tony. Everybody and I mean EVERYBODY knows a player cannot dunk during the pregame warmups and I hope that refiator and his partners reminded the HC that he was now going to spend the rest of the game in the lockerroom. P.P.S. And yes I did start a game once with two TF's (against the HC no less) but that is a story for another day, :D. |
Many years ago, I had a game between rivals, with a D1 signee on each team, but each of them going to rival Universites. aA we approached the floor, we could hear the crowd reacting to an impromtu dunk exhibition between the two stars. So as not to have to T-up either or both of them, we sent a young man affiliated with the Home team to tell them to knock it off, before we got to the floor.
Then, when we did arrive on the floor, one of the two players involved came and thanked us. (They know that pre-game dunking is illegal, if the officials see it...) |
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Here, varsity officials blow their whistle before they enter the court to as to stop the pre-game dunk contest before they "see" something. ;)
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No Texas Tea ...
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DOH!! I am getting senile in my old age. It takes three dunks. LOL MTD, Sr. |
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If you read Referee Magazine at all, about 3 years ago there was an article in Referee Magazine over a team that wore a uniform that was illegal during our state finals and the state people insisted that there be a technical foul given for a team that had reached that level of the playoffs. In that article happens to be a friend of mine who had that team during that playoffs and worked the State Finals that year was quoted about the entire situation. Nine officials were penalized for not the following year for not recognizing a uniform issue in the playoffs. I am talking about guys that were State Final officials or close to being SF official were only allowed to work the first round of the playoffs regardless of their previous background. We affectionately call those individuals the "North Lawndale Nine" because of this uniform issue and them being clearly penalized. Well the year after our state wanted this enforced heavily and it was assume that only a couple of schools would have a problem, they found out well over 100 had illegal uniforms the following year from the city teams to the most rural of rural teams. Teams were allowed to get a waiver for about a year to avoid being penalized and there is a policy about when and how the schools inform the officials before the game they have a waiver as well. We are now in the 3rd year of all of this uniform stuff and emails have been flying around about other teams and officials not enforcing the rule on uniforms during the Thanksgiving Tournaments that would only take a ruler to know if the insert was over 4 inches and if the lettering comes over the numbers by an inch. And those that did not enforce the rule or recognize a uniform are being threatened by playoff assignments (and I am not talking young and inexperienced officials). It is our state’s policy here to be very vigilant in enforcing this rule which even has us doing something most here would not imagine to check and since a team’s uniforms apply to every player on the team, we have been told to give a T to start the game for these issues or else. Like I said before, this is been a big issue here and the powers that be do not care what the NF wants or what other states want on this issue. So you or anyone can quote case plays or rules interpretations all day, but that is not what we are to deal with or the reasoning for why we do what we do. As I said before, we do not work for the NF and if they have a policy of how to handle these situations, we handle them the way we are asked. That is why we had a T last night before the game for uniforms on a team that was not previously recognized for this issue. This was such a problem that the game never felt right because this silly issue was hanging over the game the entire time. BTW the team that has the issue lost the game by more 2 points, but it always seemed like this issue tainted any interaction during that game. Peace |
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Or is this another "yabut" from you? ;) Peace |
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And if it was not unreasonable, then why did you try to suggest I changed what I said to be right? You certainly must not pay attention as I say here all the time to you and others, we do not work for the NF and what they say means nothing if your state, jurisdiction or association has a say or policy. Heck did you not try to make that point when we were talking about coming dressed to games? It would have been easy if you just used more than your fingers on a keyboard. That is what I thought. :rolleyes: Peace |
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I think you are a troll and the more I read your stuff the more that is becoming evident to me. Peace |
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Sure, no one in Illinois cares about Nevadaref, but plenty in here see his input as valuable. It's obvious to anyone reading that there was a miscommunication. Quote:
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I bet anyone a million dollars that this exchange is not over.
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What's the over/under on number of posts that will get deleted in this thread?
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