Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2 (Post 803996)

Can someone point me to where I can find this foul situation to be true. I thought the offense loses the arrow when they foul on an AP throwin?

Thanks

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2 (Post 803996)

Can someone point me to where I can find this foul situation to be true. I thought the offense loses the arrow when they foul on an AP throwin?

Thanks

Originally Posted by loudwhistle2 (Post 803996)

can someone point me to where i can find this foul situation to be true. I thought the offense loses the arrow when they foul on an ap throwin?

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 804003)

6-4-5

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2 (Post 804008)

Thanks guys, blew that last year, not this year!

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 803844)

I'm guessing the reason the violation by a teammate of the shooter kills the shot is because if the shot goes in there would be no way to penalize the violation.

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 804124)

I'm looking for a parallel here. The only other "offensive" violations I can think of during a try for goal would be basket interference and goaltending. Both of those would kill a shot, so you'd have to same the same for all violations.

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 804125)

Leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.:)

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 804129)

Yep, that could kill a shot, too. So, why would elbow swinging be any different?

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 804132)

Who said it should be any different?

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 803844)

I'm guessing the reason the violation by a teammate of the shooter kills the shot is because if the shot goes in there would be no way to penalize the violation.

A foul by the shooter's teammate on the other hand comes with the penalty of one personal foul charged to the offender and possibly free throws for the offended team.

Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 804148)

That's the best reasoning I've heard for these rulings. And yet, I still have never seen either called - the going OOB during a teammate's shot, or swinging elbows, by a teammate. Of course, neither happens very often, which contributes to the rarity of such calls.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 804149)

With a shot in progress, what possible benefit could a teammate of the shooter be seeking to go OOB on purpose?

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 804248)

Going around a defender trying to get inside position for a possible rebound.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 804296)

I'm just envisioning that it will take too long to make it to a viable position if they have to go that far behind the backboard to go around a defender and get back in front of the board for a decent rebounding position.