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rockyroad Mon Nov 28, 2011 05:04pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 800475)
I bet Tebow could view it, though.

5-1 as a starter...hard to argue with that.

JRutledge Mon Nov 28, 2011 05:13pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 800488)
5-1 as a starter...hard to argue with that.

If the defense gave up the same amount of yards and point, they would have had that record before the last 6 games too. Hard to argue that either.

Peace

APG Mon Nov 28, 2011 05:21pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 800488)
5-1 as a starter...hard to argue with that.

Simply stating he's 5-1, as if he's the sole reason, doesn't look at how and why those games are being won. I'd give the overwhelming credit to the defense.

JRutledge Mon Nov 28, 2011 06:45pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 800490)
Simply stating he's 5-1, as if he's the sole reason, doesn't look at how and why those games are being won. I'd give the overwhelming credit to the defense.

I just have one question.

Why is it that people can be critical of Brady, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees (all have won Super Bowls) but for some reason we cannot talk about a guy that has never won a Super Bowl or has been to any playoff game? Oh 5-1, he must be the GOAT!!!! :rolleyes:

Peace

Welpe Mon Nov 28, 2011 06:48pm

I don't need to see it to know it is a travel.

Coaches and fans accuse me of being blind so why does it matter. They also think I'm indecisive, I'm not sure why.

OK on second thought it is a legal jump stop.

Well maybe not.

(I'll be happy to look at the video for you as soon as you open it up for us.)

BillyMac Mon Nov 28, 2011 07:08pm

Extra Butter ...
 
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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 800494)
I'll be happy to look at the video for you as soon as you open it up for us.

Me too. I've already got the popcorn ready.

jump stop Mon Nov 28, 2011 07:46pm

try it now it should work, I made it public on You Tube, I need "more tech savy"

JRutledge Mon Nov 28, 2011 07:52pm

What do you want us to look at?

Also your example at 1:36 if flawed in which one is the pivot foot. That play she catches the ball with both feet on the floor. Either foot could be the pivot foot. Then again I am not sitting and watching the entire video just to know what you want us to comment on.

Peace

Jeremy Hohn Mon Nov 28, 2011 07:56pm

Great video...and talented daughter!
 
Looks like she is learning correctly. That long step move is the most incorrectly called travel ever....the ladies are about the only ones that utilize it!

Rich Mon Nov 28, 2011 08:01pm

I watched it. Not a single move in there that should be called a travel, including the game footage at the end (although I've seen that called a travel more times than I'd like to). I actually did watch the entire video.

She's quite good with the ball and it's obvious she's worked very hard at it.

jump stop Mon Nov 28, 2011 08:02pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 800500)
What do you want us to look at?

Also your example at 1:36 if flawed in which one is the pivot foot. That play she catches the ball with both feet on the floor. Either foot could be the pivot foot. Then again I am not sitting and watching the entire video just to know what you want us to comment on.

Peace

I guess what I want reviewed : if you saw these moves would you call them a travel? What percentage of referees would call them a travel? Is this a travel ?

jump stop Mon Nov 28, 2011 08:08pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 800502)
I watched it. Not a single move in there that should be called a travel, including the game footage at the end (although I've seen that called a travel more times than I'd like to). I actually did watch the entire video.

She's quite good with the ball and it's obvious she's worked very hard at it.

Thanks, the last move from game footage was called a travel. In most games last year, the jump stops were not called traveling. It did happen enough though to make me question if she were doing something wrong, hence the motivation to make a video.

JRutledge Mon Nov 28, 2011 08:13pm

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Originally Posted by jump stop (Post 800503)
I guess what I want reviewed : if you saw these moves would you call them a travel? What percentage of referees would call them a travel? Is this a travel ?

If you had a specific play to look at then I would feel more compelled to comment. I will not be watching the entire video just to judge every play in a 10 minute video. And what other officials would do I have no idea. The couple of minutes I saw there was nothing wrong with the moves and I would not call any of them a travel. Traveling is sometimes one of the most inconsistent calls in the game and certainly that is the case with jump stops. I guess I was expecting a jump stop ruling and that was not the case.

Peace

mbyron Mon Nov 28, 2011 08:17pm

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Originally Posted by jump stop (Post 800503)
I guess what I want reviewed : if you saw these moves would you call them a travel? What percentage of referees would call them a travel? Is this a travel ?

1. No

2. Hm, maybe 2% at the level I work.

3. No.

APG Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:05pm

You'll find that traveling is the most inconsistent calls made/not made in basketball. In high school, in my experience, it leans towards too many officials calling legal plays travels because it "looked weird."

The last play in the clip was a legal play, and IMO, wasn't even that close.


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