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Adam Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:19pm
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Originally Posted by tref (Post 799718)
Even if you're the L with all ten players running motion above the FT line extended & there was an obvious foul that your partner no-called because they didnt position adjust?

Also, isnt the object of the basketball officiating to referee your primary matchup(s) while seeing as many of the other players as possible?

I hate discussing plays when partners get all defensive about their incorrect no-calls & resort to "you shouldn't have been looking there in the first place."
With a new official, I'm not going to stretch his primary. Once he learns his primary and how to avoid ball watching, we can discuss situations where he needs to expand.

My response to a poached call is, "What did you see?" If I saw something different, I'll mention it. I move on unless he expresses a willingness to actually discuss it openly.

Mregor Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:26am
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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 799700)
That's a load of BS. All new officials have trouble letting go of watching the ball. It's something that takes time and discipline to overcome. As a new official it has nothing to do with trusting your partner.
You beat me to it!

Newbie-ref Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:37am
Avoid watching the ball is most difficult especially for the new referees like myself. During my examination, I missed about 2 calls away from the ball because I looked at the ball instead of the players. One of them was a push/block. Evaluator does not like what I did, just hey, I'm still learning.

Rob1968 Thu Nov 24, 2011 03:53am
This worked - - and still works - for me
 
One method of overcoming the tendency to watch the ball is to do the following:
When you transition from Trail to Lead, get to the endline quickly. On the way, think of your new PCA, and look towards it. When you get to the endline, turn your body so that your angle is facing your PCA, rather than being square to the court. Indeed, force yourself to face your PCA, and to look there, even though the ball, and most of the action, is not in your PCA.
As you get comfortable with this attitude, or posture, you will find that you can trust your partner, as you will notice his/her calls that you really didn't see. Making a mental note of such calls will re-enforce your desire, and positive result of "working my PCA" and "trusting my partner."

bob jenkins Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:15am
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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 799813)
Or maybe he's just intentionally trying to get under bob's skin :D
IMO, a couple of people seem to be trying to get under the skins of several others.

Can't speak for all of the others, but I'm not really bothered by it.

Freddy Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:46am
Don't Argue with Bob
 
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 799929)
IMO, a couple of people seem to be trying to get under the skins of several others. Can't speak for all of the others, but I'm not really bothered by it.
I'm not bothered by it either. If only everyone followed the time-honored principle that "Bob is right...", none of the ad hominems (can I make a plural out of a Latin phrase like that?) would ever have been posted.

Does make for some entertaining moments while monitoring the forum at work, however.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:22am
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 799836)
I hereby find you guilty of premature emasculation.
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Well, I guess it is better than being guilty of premature :eek:. Nope not going down the road.

MTD, Sr.

Newbie-ref Thu Nov 24, 2011 02:56pm
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Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 799886)
One method of overcoming the tendency to watch the ball is to do the following:
When you transition from Trail to Lead, get to the endline quickly. On the way, think of your new PCA, and look towards it. When you get to the endline, turn your body so that your angle is facing your PCA, rather than being square to the court. Indeed, force yourself to face your PCA, and to look there, even though the ball, and most of the action, is not in your PCA.
As you get comfortable with this attitude, or posture, you will find that you can trust your partner, as you will notice his/her calls that you really didn't see. Making a mental note of such calls will re-enforce your desire, and positive result of "working my PCA" and "trusting my partner."
What is an "PCA" ? thanks,
New REf

APG Thu Nov 24, 2011 03:04pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newbie-ref (Post 799947)
What is an "PCA" ? thanks,
New REf
Primary coverage area

Freddy Thu Nov 24, 2011 03:05pm
Daffynition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newbie-ref (Post 799947)
What is an "PCA" ? thanks,
New REf
Primary Coverage Area, also called simply your "Primary"

BillyMac Thu Nov 24, 2011 04:57pm
IAABO, Two Person ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newbie-ref (Post 799947)
What is an "PCA" ?
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3505/3...67305d15_m.jpg

Newbie-ref Thu Nov 24, 2011 06:43pm
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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 799812)
There's no reason to believe that...perhaps English is not the poster's first language and just because he hasn't visited in the past 24 hours doesn't mean he hasn't either a.)visited as a guest or b.)just hasn't been able to get on in the past 24 hours.
Thanks. English is not my first language. Getting there.


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