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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 11:16am
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Some states have made the terrible decision to have the calling official stay tableside. I thought about this as well. I would not switch if he's opposite tableside.

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In Texas, we'd be tableside anyhow after reporting...I personally like going tableside and glad we've been doing it for awhile.
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 11:28am
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I also like going tableside, but there's no way I'm tossing my partner into the street on this play. If he wants to switch and chat, I'll go along, but if not, no way I'm initiating it.
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 12:48pm
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In the USA, we wouldn't worry about it until the County Finals. Rule 12-6.
Can you site the case-book play? I can't find it...?
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 12:52pm
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Can you site the case-book play? I can't find it...?
Case book play 12.6.1
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 01:22pm
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Case book play 12.6.1
More specifically 12.6.1 Situation C
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 02:57pm
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It does, apparently, matter that it was a "city semi-final" game, though. At least in Canada. In the USA, we wouldn't worry about it until the County Finals. Rule 12-6.
In Saskatchewan, the "city semifinals" are virtual round-of-16 games of the provincial playoff series, so that really is a high-stakes game.
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 04:26pm
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In Saskatchewan, the "city semifinals" are virtual round-of-16 games of the provincial playoff series, so that really is a high-stakes game.
What about in Labrador?
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 07:07pm
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, there Tex!! The R doesn't get final say on EVERY decision. I believe the article you're alluding to only applies when the officials can't agree on whether a try near the expiration of time should be scored. If I'm the R, I can't go in after my partner's travel call and say "I don't agree! Still Team A's ball!"
SECTION 3 REFEREE’S AUTHORITY
The referee shall make decisions on any points not specifically covered in the
rules.

SECTION 4 REFEREE’S PREGAME DUTIES
The referee shall:
ART. 1 Inspect and approve all equipment, including court, baskets, ball,
backboards, and timer’s and scorer’s signals.
ART. 2 Designate the official timepiece and official timer prior to the
scheduled starting time of the game.
ART. 3 Designate the official scorebook and official scorer prior to the
scheduled starting time of the game.
ART. 4 Be responsible for having each team notified three minutes before
each half is to begin.
ART. 5 Verify with the head coach, prior to each contest, that his/her team
member’s uniforms and equipment are legal and will be worn properly, and that
all participants will exhibit proper sporting behavior throughout the contest.

SECTION 5 REFEREE’S DUTIES DURING GAME
The referee shall:
ART. 1 Designate the official to toss the ball in the center restraining circle
for all jump-ball situations.
ART. 2 Administer the alternating-possession throw-in to start the second,
third and fourth quarters.
ART. 3 Decide whether a goal shall count if the officials disagree.
ART. 4 May declare the game a forfeit when conditions warrant.
ART. 5 Decide matters upon which the timer and scorer disagree and
correct obvious timing errors.
ART. 6 Confer with the official scorer at halftime to determine the
possession arrow is pointed in the proper direction to begin play in the third
quarter.
ART. 7 Check and approve the score at the end of each half.

SECTION 6 OFFICIALS’ AUTHORITY
No official has the authority to set aside or question decisions made by the
other official(s) within the limits of their respective outlined duties.
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 08:27pm
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Some states have made the terrible decision to have the calling official stay tableside.
Some states? Actually, the NFHS mechanic is to stay tableside. Also, in 3 man, the calling official stays tableside.

So why is that a terrible decision?
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Old Thu Nov 10, 2011, 12:50am
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Some states? Actually, the NFHS mechanic is to stay tableside. Also, in 3 man, the calling official stays tableside.

So why is that a terrible decision?
I believe IAABO has not made that choice; but I agree that it's not a horrible decision.
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Old Thu Nov 10, 2011, 12:55am
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I believe IAABO has not made that choice; but I agree that it's not a horrible decision.
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Old Fri Nov 11, 2011, 07:42am
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What about in Labrador?
Labrador doesn't have any cities (largest settlements are towns), so the issue does not come up. (I mentioned SK specifically because that's where JugglingReferee appears to be from.)
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Old Fri Nov 11, 2011, 08:17am
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I believe IAABO has not made that choice; but I agree that it's not a horrible decision.
I believe that it is a great decision. Why have the coach yell all the way across the floor because, arbatrarly and by old mechanic, we would rotate on every foul. Makes sense to have the calling official trail table side to be able to ANSWER A QUESTION from the coach. If it gets to be too much the official can move away from the coach and should move away and more onto the court if it becomes a hostile situation. I think that NCAAW have it correct as well NFHS. I have also been told in our rules meeting that if we belive it will be confrientational, we have the option of being trail opposit table. However in this situation I would be table side.
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