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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 10:35am
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The chart is very specific that the head coach does not get an indirect when a sub enters the court without being beckoned or without reporting. (10-2 and penalty chart) The wording at the beginning of 10-4 indicates that the substitutes' behavior, however, could warrant an indirect for the coach. There really isn't much clarity on this beyond that, however.
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The chart is very specific that the head coach does not get an indirect when a sub enters the court without being beckoned or without reporting. (10-2 and penalty chart) The wording at the beginning of 10-4 indicates that the substitutes' behavior, however, could warrant an indirect for the coach. There really isn't much clarity on this beyond that, however.
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The chart is very specific that the head coach does not get an indirect when a sub enters the court without being beckoned or without reporting. (10-2 and penalty chart) The wording at the beginning of 10-4 indicates that the substitutes' behavior, however, could warrant an indirect for the coach. There really isn't much clarity on this beyond that, however.
Correct. When they violation the provisions of the substitution rules by improperly entering the game, the coach is not charge. But for other actions such as unsportsmanlike conduct, there is no basis for excluding the coach.
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Ultimately, I just break the T's down into the five categories: Team, Player, Substitute, Bench, and Head Coach. The last two always result in the coach losing the box (which our state has). The bench always results in indirects.

From there, you just have to know which foul goes to which category, and why. (Reasons tend to jog the memory.) Writing a brief list of each helps.
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The chart is very specific that the head coach does not get an indirect when a sub enters the court without being beckoned or without reporting. (10-2 and penalty chart) The wording at the beginning of 10-4 indicates that the substitutes' behavior, however, could warrant an indirect for the coach. There really isn't much clarity on this beyond that, however.
And that exception exists because the coach can hardly be expected to be responsible for the sub enters without being beckoned.
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