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26 Year Gap Mon Oct 31, 2011 08:48am

First Games Assigned.
 
I have 8 days to go before the season starts.

JRutledge Mon Oct 31, 2011 08:51am

I start Thursday.

Peace

grunewar Mon Oct 31, 2011 09:57am

My first scrimmage is Saturday! Hoorah!!

Adam Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:00am

MS girls tomorrow. I hear it's competitive.

NCHSAA Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 796587)
I have 8 days to go before the season starts.

College season kicks off tomorrow (Nov 1).

fiasco Mon Oct 31, 2011 03:46pm

We still have about 12 days to go, but I did finally get out on the court on Saturday to do some rec league 8th grade games. Man, it was fun. I love how every year I feel less and less rusty out on the floor my first game of the season.

Another weekend of rec league JH ball and then girls JV/V starts. Assignments should go out either end of this week or early next week. I'm like a kid at Christmas waiting to head downstairs and open up presents!

SCalScoreKeeper Mon Oct 31, 2011 04:17pm

Boy-you all start early! I don't have my first games until the end of November :D :D :D

JRutledge Mon Oct 31, 2011 04:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 796685)
Boy-you all start early! I don't have my first games until the end of November :D :D :D

High School?

Peace

SCalScoreKeeper Mon Oct 31, 2011 04:38pm

Sorry Rut-yep High School!

JRutledge Mon Oct 31, 2011 04:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 796688)
Sorry Rut-yep High School!

That is your reason. Looks like most are working college (which starts across the country at various levels) or MS/JH games. If it makes you feel better back in the day I used to work games in September. :)

Peace

BLydic Mon Oct 31, 2011 05:06pm

Tip-off weekend, start of the regular HS basketball season, is 12/10. Eh, it's a football town.

Camron Rust Mon Oct 31, 2011 06:51pm

I've had 1 scrimmage so far, have one more tonight, and another in about a week.

First college game in 4 weeks.

First HS game TBD...schedule not published yet....but it will be either the Monday or the Tuesday after Thanksgiving when the HS season begins in Oregon.

Raymond Mon Oct 31, 2011 08:28pm

I had a paid scrimmage, does that count?

kgeorge0263 Mon Oct 31, 2011 08:57pm

Games
 
Started college scrimmages last Saturday, another Friday and Saturday.:eek:

SNIPERBBB Mon Oct 31, 2011 09:29pm

Paid scrimmage/foundation game Nov. 18th. First official game Dec 5.

26 Year Gap Mon Oct 31, 2011 09:44pm

Tip-off tournaments for HS in FL start next week.

26 Year Gap Mon Oct 31, 2011 09:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 796620)
MS girls tomorrow. I hear it's competitive.

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zm1283 Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:37pm

Have a scrimmage on the 22nd and games start the 28th.

Camron Rust Tue Nov 01, 2011 01:31am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 796620)
MS girls tomorrow. I hear it's competitive.

Is it the championship?

JRutledge Tue Nov 01, 2011 02:07am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 796709)
I had a paid scrimmage, does that count?

I had two JUCO Jamborees in early October, does that count? :D

Peace

Adam Tue Nov 01, 2011 09:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 796742)
Is it the championship?

No, but it was a lot of fun. Close games. Good to be back at it after 20 months.

BktBallRef Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:23pm

Ok, here goes.

Scrimmage jamborees each of the next three Saturdays, and a scrimmage next Tuesday night.

Private school regular season opener 11/10 and public school opener 11/21.

It was cold last Friday night, so I'm ready to get inside!

JRutledge Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:01am

Well my college game was cancelled, so I will not have a game until November 18, unless I have a football game that night. My start is on hold.

Peace

jdw3018 Wed Nov 02, 2011 09:33am

Good thread to jump back in on after a summer away... My first game is tonight (NAIA JV - does it count? :rolleyes: ), had my first HS scrimmage last night. Football still going hot and heavy here, so many teams are still without key players which makes for some sloppy play.

HS schedule starts after Thanksgiving.

Welpe Wed Nov 02, 2011 09:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 796928)
No, but it was a lot of fun. Close games. Good to be back at it after 20 months.

How was the overall rapport?

Adam Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 796976)
How was the overall rapport?

We had a great rapport. And after a little on-the-fly coaching, she did a great job timing the Timeouts and quarter breaks.

Lcubed48 Thu Nov 03, 2011 02:34am

Who u got!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 796617)
My first scrimmage is Saturday! Hoorah!!

What teams will be involved? Good luck in your new board! I don't believe that the scrimmages down here start until the following week.

grunewar Thu Nov 03, 2011 04:15am

Actually, I don't know yet!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 797112)
What teams will be involved? Good luck in your new board! I don't believe that the scrimmages down here start until the following week.

My scrimmage Sat is still TBA.

I have four other scrimmage dates, three of which I know the schools.

I have two regular season games on tap so far for late Nov/early Dec. Teams not posted yet.

Thanks for the good wishes - and for you too! Be well.

bainsey Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:29am

I had three scrimmages two weekends ago. Our regular season won't start until after Thanksgiving.

Scuba_ref Thu Nov 03, 2011 02:10pm

High School?
 
Are you guys doing High School scrimmages? They don't appear to be very popular in this part of Washington State; I did them in Montana but not here. I have had and will yet have some college scrimmages but no High School.

MS Class B Girls season just ended. Boys MS is starting next week and High School around Thanksgiving. First Community College game is 11/26.

JRutledge Thu Nov 03, 2011 02:39pm

We do have them Scuba ref, but they are usually the weekend before the actual season starts. And they cannot play other teams either.

Peace

bainsey Thu Nov 03, 2011 03:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba_ref (Post 797156)
Are you guys doing High School scrimmages? They don't appear to be very popular in this part of Washington State....

Technically, it's travel stuff in this corner. They're not recogized by the high schools, but they're made up of the same players. Twenty-minute running time halves.

High school and middle school basketball seasons run pretty much concurrently here, and that goes for all scholastic sports.

Scuba_ref Thu Nov 03, 2011 03:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 797159)
We do have them Scuba ref, but they are usually the weekend before the actual season starts. And they cannot play other teams either.

Peace


Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 797162)
Technically, it's travel stuff in this corner. They're not recogized by the high schools, but they're made up of the same players. Twenty-minute running time halves.

High school and middle school basketball seasons run pretty much concurrently here, and that goes for all scholastic sports.


Thanks guys. I really don't understand why our neck of the woods doesn't run some scrimmages with officials. In MT and with the college stuff we do it for free so there isn't a cost aspect to worry about for the High schools. the schools here really are missing out on an opportunity to have a mini rules clinic (at least an explanation of the new rules and points of emphasis) prior to the season when there are no do-overs. Oh well, maybe there is a reason that I am not aware of.

JRutledge Thu Nov 03, 2011 04:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba_ref (Post 797169)
Thanks guys. I really don't understand why our neck of the woods doesn't run some scrimmages with officials. In MT and with the college stuff we do it for free so there isn't a cost aspect to worry about for the High schools. the schools here really are missing out on an opportunity to have a mini rules clinic (at least an explanation of the new rules and points of emphasis) prior to the season when there are no do-overs. Oh well, maybe there is a reason that I am not aware of.

It is up to the school but most schools pay for scrimmages around here. That was not always the case, but I think it affects who comes to work their scrimmage.

Peace

jdw3018 Thu Nov 03, 2011 04:40pm

Every state has its own rules, too, about what can be done. Some don't allow inter-squad scrimmages, some don't allow keeping time and/or score, and others can essentially play games against other teams.

It's pretty much wide open here, and high schools don't normally play. Our association views it as preparation for us just like the kids. We're expected to do a couple as our schedules allow, and while there is no formal requirement, it is often viewed as a good thing to do for your assignor. Especially if you are newer.

Raymond Fri Nov 04, 2011 08:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 797175)
It is up to the school but most schools pay for scrimmages around here. That was not always the case, but I think it affects who comes to work their scrimmage.

Peace

Must be nice. High schools here get services for free (think it's a state rule that scrimmages aren't for pay) and get mad if you refuse to work more than 6 quarters. Plus they will arbitrarily change times or switch the JV and V scrimmages around and expect us to just hang around.

JRutledge Fri Nov 04, 2011 09:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 797201)
Must be nice. High schools here get services for free (think it's a state rule that scrimmages aren't for pay) and get mad if you refuse to work more than 6 quarters. Plus they will arbitrarily change times or switch the JV and V scrimmages around and expect us to just hang around.

I just cannot think of many in the past 5 years where I have not been paid. That being said there was a time when being paid was unusual. I think our schools for the most part have come around.

Peace

Adam Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:07am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 797201)
Must be nice. High schools here get services for free (think it's a state rule that scrimmages aren't for pay) and get mad if you refuse to work more than 6 quarters. Plus they will arbitrarily change times or switch the JV and V scrimmages around and expect us to just hang around.

It's one day, we do it for free. It's a chance to shake off the rust and get a little more experience.

However, a couple of years ago after the schools decided to save money at our expense, the association stopped actively assigning the preseason scrimmages. It's no longer the political benefit it once was because of that.

grunewar Sat Nov 05, 2011 06:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 797118)
My scrimmage Sat is still TBA.

Good to get out and run on a big court again tonight.

I was rusty, but my P's and I did well.

Got into the habit of "bird-dogging" on most of my fouls lately. Evaluators didn't like it and told me to lose it......I can't even recall when I started it! :confused:

eyezen Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:10pm

Had a NAIA game Thursday and a JUCO this afternoon.

Lcubed48 Sun Nov 06, 2011 02:55pm

Yep, it must be nice.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 797201)
Must be nice. High schools here get services for free (think it's a state rule that scrimmages aren't for pay) and get mad if you refuse to work more than 6 quarters. Plus they will arbitrarily change times or switch the JV and V scrimmages around and expect us to just hang around.

+1 It's the same way in this area. You know the game info from the Arbiter, but the R almost always has to do some kind of negotiation upon arrival on site. We try to look on it as our little bit of community service for the season.

Lcubed48 Sun Nov 06, 2011 03:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 797299)
Good to get out and run on a big court again tonight.

I was rusty, but my P's and I did well.

Got into the habit of "bird-dogging" on most of my fouls lately. Evaluators didn't like it and told me to lose it......I can't even recall when I started it! :confused:

Don't you just hate when those little things crop up in our mechanics. At least, you'll get it out of your game before the season begins. Back in the day, it was a standard mechanic.

BillyMac Sun Nov 06, 2011 05:06pm

Connecticut Scrimmages ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 797201)
High schools here get services for free (think it's a state rule that scrimmages aren't for pay) and get mad if you refuse to work more than 6 quarters. Plus they will arbitrarily change times or switch the JV and V scrimmages around and expect us to just hang around.

For the past two seasons, here in my little corner of the Land of Steady habits, scrimmages that are assigned by our assignment commissioner are always paid scrimmages, $100.00 for the entire "crew" (the commissioner often sends three, or four, officials), and are limited to six quarters. If the scrimmage is expected to go more than six quarters, i.e. a jamboree, then the host school must make special fee arrangements with our commissioner.

Our state interscholastic sports governing body actually encouraged officials in all sports to get paid for scrimmages because some sports were unable to get any scrimmage officials at all (field hockey, lacrosse, etc.).

Schools that do want assigned officials for their scrimmages can contact individual officials, and arrange any fee, including no fee; gas, laundry, and lunch money; a T-shirt; or lunch (grinders, pizza).

truerookie Sun Nov 06, 2011 06:23pm

My first games are 8/8/2011. Girls double header JV/V.

fiasco Sun Nov 06, 2011 06:26pm

Been doing JH rec league for the last two Saturdays to shake off the rust.

Real seasons starts this week. GV Friday and Saturday night. Can't wait.

Adam Sun Nov 06, 2011 06:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by truerookie (Post 797397)
My first games are 8/8/2011. Girls double header JV/V.

How were they?

Scuba_ref Sun Nov 06, 2011 08:44pm

Comm. College Scrimmage
 
The assigner for the Community College association that I work for expects each of his officials to do at least two unpaid scrimmages prior to the season starting. Yesterday four officials worked six, 30-minute games as four teams scrimmaged against each other. We were running the court from 11:00am until 3:30pm. But hey, they did provide us each with one bottle of water.

26 Year Gap Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:39pm

Just got 3 more added. Most are 3 crew games, which when the cutbacks are considered, is pretty good.

Raymond Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:30am

Worked a scrimmage yesterday where I got to work with and meet a fellow poster, vbzebra, for the first time.

tref Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:01am

Opened up the season with 2 ABA games over the weekend. Big fun!!

3 day JC road trip starting Thursday. I hope the RA is marked, if not its a judgment call. Oh boy!!

HS season opener 11/30 G-JV/V. 2 of my 5 mandatory out the way early
:D

grunewar Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 797456)
Worked a scrimmage yesterday where I got to work with and meet a fellow poster, vbzebra, for the first time.

When are y'all comin up here to work a game!? (and you can bring lcubed too) :p

I worked a game on Sat with a transfer from Cal - we had to splain to him that we count 10 secs in the back court for girls here.......

Freddy Mon Nov 07, 2011 04:34pm

Prepping for Official Start
 
Misc. MS games with rookies and upcoming rookies day camps prior to first assignments the beginning of the month.
One woeful prospect looms large -- shift picks for our department at work determine our work schedule for the new year. I'm low on the totem pole here so the likelihood of having to work the second half of the week instead of the first half of the week is running about 25%. With a good V officiating schedule set on nights when I don't have to work late the days I work (get out at 6:30) now, if I get shifted to the other shift I'll have to bail on the entire year. Hope it doesn't come to that.
"Mongo just pawn in game of life."

Rufus Mon Nov 07, 2011 04:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 797479)
One woeful prospect looms large -- shift picks for our department at work determine our work schedule for the new year. I'm low on the totem pole here so the likelihood of having to work the second half of the week instead of the first half of the week is running about 25%. With a good V officiating schedule set on nights when I don't have to work late the days I work (get out at 6:30) now, if I get shifted to the other shift I'll have to bail on the entire year. Hope it doesn't come to that.
"Mongo just pawn in game of life."

I feel your pain Freddy. I'm 5 years in with my association and was the "go to" guy for sub-varsity mainly because I worked out of my house and was flexible in terms of assignment. Started a new job with a very long commute and now can only do varsity during the week (and I'm just in transition from SV to V so I don't expect anything close to a "full" schedule - also had to speak to my new boss about leaving around 4 to get to those weekday games). I did speak to both assignors and told them to load me up on sub-varsity on the weekends but we'll have to see how things shake out.

26 Year Gap Mon Nov 07, 2011 06:58pm

Passed my test. First game tomorrow night. Bag is packed. Including Mr. Advil, who car pools with me to every game.

grunewar Mon Nov 07, 2011 07:23pm

I car pool too!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 797488)
Passed my test. First game tomorrow night. Bag is packed. Including Mr. Advil, who car pools with me to every game.

But, I'm usually with his cousin, Mr. Aleve! ;)

RSturgell Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:28pm

1st scrim. freshman boys Monday, then a few JV girls city league games. Should be interesting, looking forward to it.

ref2coach Tue Nov 08, 2011 01:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 797490)
But, I'm usually with his cousin, Mr. Aleve! ;)

Stop eating inflammation causing foods and within 4 to 6 weeks you will not have to ingest chemical inflammation suppressors to be able to referee. ;)

McMac Tue Nov 08, 2011 09:15pm

First scrimmage tonight. Girls scrimmage. Went pretty well. Got another Thursday.

Rich Tue Nov 08, 2011 09:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 797386)
For the past two seasons, here in my little corner of the Land of Steady habits, scrimmages that are assigned by our assignment commissioner are always paid scrimmages, $100.00 for the entire "crew" (the commissioner often sends three, or four, officials), and are limited to six quarters. If the scrimmage is expected to go more than six quarters, i.e. a jamboree, then the host school must make special fee arrangements with our commissioner.

Our state interscholastic sports governing body actually encouraged officials in all sports to get paid for scrimmages because some sports were unable to get any scrimmage officials at all (field hockey, lacrosse, etc.).

Schools that do want assigned officials for their scrimmages can contact individual officials, and arrange any fee, including no fee; gas, laundry, and lunch money; a T-shirt; or lunch (grinders, pizza).

Our scrimmages usually pay as well as a game. I was offered one that pays $75 when our normal game fee is $60, but I had to turn it down because I'm working a clinic as a clinician. Rumor has it the $75 scrimmage is going to last about 3 hours, though. :D

I do work the occasional free scrimmage and it's not really a consideration when I accept or decline -- but if they're paying, I'm taking.

I won't walk onto a court until the 19th. First game isn't until the 26th. I can use the break after a long baseball season followed immediately with a football season. Between November 26th and March 1st, I'll work about 60-65 HS/college dates, which is more than enough for me.

The_Rookie Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 797627)
Our scrimmages usually pay as well as a game. I was offered one that pays $75 when our normal game fee is $60, but I had to turn it down because I'm working a clinic as a clinician. Rumor has it the $75 scrimmage is going to last about 3 hours, though. :D

I do work the occasional free scrimmage and it's not really a consideration when I accept or decline -- but if they're paying, I'm taking.

I won't walk onto a court until the 19th. First game isn't until the 26th. I can use the break after a long baseball season followed immediately with a football season. Between November 26th and March 1st, I'll work about 60-65 HS/college dates, which is more than enough for me.

We are required to work one free scrimmage as it counts toward our training hours to become/stay certified

Lcubed48 Wed Nov 09, 2011 04:00am

A kinder gentler BNR?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 797456)
Worked a scrimmage yesterday where I got to work with and meet a fellow poster, vbzebra, for the first time.

I'm sure that you were kind and giving partner like you were with me.
Where? Aren't the 2 of you in different HS boards?

Lcubed48 Wed Nov 09, 2011 04:02am

4 man ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 797461)
When are y'all comin up here to work a game!? (and you can bring lcubed too) :p

I worked a game on Sat with a transfer from Cal - we had to splain to him that we count 10 secs in the back court for girls here.......

Yes, I would be up for a game/s using a 4 man crew.

Raymond Wed Nov 09, 2011 09:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 797648)
I'm sure that you were kind and giving partner like you were with me.
Where? Aren't the 2 of you in different HS boards?

Yes we are, so that leaves one other consideration. ;)

JRutledge Wed Nov 09, 2011 02:24pm

Well the season technically started for me last night. I was called at the last minute to cover a Women's college JUCO game when I happened to be home when called at 4:45. That game was 5 minutes away and I was the first to get to the school.

Well back to football until November 18 when the "real....real" start takes place unless I get another call of course. :D

Peace

Raymond Wed Nov 09, 2011 03:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 797721)
Well the season technically started for me last night. I was called at the last minute to cover a Women's college JUCO game when I happened to be home when called at 4:45. That game was 5 minutes away and I was the first to get to the school.
...Peace

Will this negatively impact your Men's career? :D

JRutledge Wed Nov 09, 2011 03:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 797739)
Will this negatively impact your Men's career? :D

Not when the Men's assignor I mainly worked for was asking for help. ;)

Peace

Lcubed48 Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 797669)
Yes we are, so that leaves one other consideration. ;)

A college scrimmage? or which one of you'all has changed boards?

Raymond Thu Nov 10, 2011 08:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 797829)
A college scrimmage? or which one of you'all has changed boards?

Damn, you got me, there were at least 2 considerations. :o Forgot you were privy to our HS drama around here.

Choose the answer in which congratulations are in order to a young official.

Lcubed48 Fri Nov 11, 2011 06:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 797869)
Damn, you got me, there were at least 2 considerations. :o Forgot you were privy to our HS drama around here.

Choose the answer in which congratulations are in order to a young official.

OK, I choose A - the college scenario.

vbzebra Fri Nov 11, 2011 07:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 797869)
Damn, you got me, there were at least 2 considerations. :o Forgot you were privy to our HS drama around here.

Choose the answer in which congratulations are in order to a young official.


And I enjoyed working with you and learning from you! Hope to work with you again!

BillyMac Fri Nov 11, 2011 07:51pm

Bromance ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vbzebra (Post 798190)
And I enjoyed working with you and learning from you! Hope to work with you again!

Get a room.

vbzebra Fri Nov 11, 2011 08:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 798192)
Get a room.

Ha ha ha!

Welpe Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:01pm

So looks like I've had a change of heart and had my own change of local chapters. My first games are next week. :o

grunewar Sat Nov 12, 2011 07:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 798205)
So looks like I've had a change of heart and had my own change of local chapters.

I'm in the same boat. So far so good for me.

Good luck!

Adam Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 798205)
So looks like I've had a change of heart and had my own change of local chapters. My first games are next week. :o

Glad to hear it. Have fun.

bainsey Thu Nov 17, 2011 01:23pm

Just got a VB game two weeks from Saturday. This would be my first varsity assignment in basketball.

One little wrinkle for this sports fan, and something which Snaqs and DeNucci (maybe others) can appreciate: The start time potentially coincides with the NCAA FCS playoffs, something UMaine has never hosted. I have season tickets, and my Black Bears are 8-2 (surprising many this year), and are a likely candidate to host a game or two. We won't know until after the regular season closes this weekend.

Will have to wait and see. Fortunately, my assignment is three miles from UMaine.

grunewar Thu Nov 17, 2011 01:58pm

Hoorah!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 798964)
Just got a VB game two weeks from Saturday. This would be my first varsity assignment in basketball.

Congrats! Hope your schedule works out for you.

As always, let us know how it goes!

26 Year Gap Thu Nov 17, 2011 05:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 798964)
Just got a VB game two weeks from Saturday. This would be my first varsity assignment in basketball.

One little wrinkle for this sports fan, and something which Snaqs and DeNucci (maybe others) can appreciate: The start time potentially coincides with the NCAA FCS playoffs, something UMaine has never hosted. I have season tickets, and my Black Bears are 8-2 (surprising many this year), and are a likely candidate to host a game or two. We won't know until after the regular season closes this weekend.

Will have to wait and see. Fortunately, my assignment is three miles from UMaine.

Orono or Old Town?
(Fellow Black Bear here)

bainsey Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:42pm

Old Town, home of the... Coyotes.

(Another thing that's changed here since you left.)

JRutledge Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 799131)
Old Town, home of the... Coyotes.

(Another thing that's changed here since you left.)

Did they once have a Native American depicted name? ;)

Peace

bainsey Fri Nov 18, 2011 01:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 799132)
Did they once have a Native American depicted name? ;)

And.... the can of worms is open!

Yes, formerly Old Town Indians, changed sometime in the last ten years.

Still, the gym has this huge, beautiful painting of nearby Penobscot Nation with the caption "Old Town Indians." And, the name of the island home of the Penobscot Nation remains, "Indian Island." I worked a playoff soccer game last month that featured Indian Island Middle School (Warriors).

The lack of verbal parallelism never ceases to baffle me.

chseagle Fri Nov 18, 2011 01:58pm

Have done 2 JH/MS 8th Boys games. So far, so good.

One little tidbit for those who work in gyms where the scoreboard shows the TO Countdown, if you can have it only show on the scoreboard controller it'd make the coaches happier.

BillyMac Fri Nov 18, 2011 07:05pm

Not Your Father's Mascot ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 799136)
And, the can of worms is open!

In my humble, non-Native American opinion, there are good Native American mascots, and there are bad Native American mascots. If the Native Americans that live in particular areas like the mascot, and don't have any problem with the mascot, then the schools should be allowed to continue to use it.

North Dakota Fighting Sioux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

chseagle Fri Nov 18, 2011 07:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 799132)
Did they once have a Native American depicted name? ;)

Peace

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 799136)
And.... the can of worms is open!

Yes, formerly Old Town Indians, changed sometime in the last ten years.

Still, the gym has this huge, beautiful painting of nearby Penobscot Nation with the caption "Old Town Indians." And, the name of the island home of the Penobscot Nation remains, "Indian Island." I worked a playoff soccer game last month that featured Indian Island Middle School (Warriors).

The lack of verbal parallelism never ceases to baffle me.

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 799180)
In my humble, non-Native American opinion, there are good Native American mascots, and there are bad Native American mascots. If the Native Americans that live in particular areas like the mascot, and don't have any problem with the mascot, then the schools should be allowed to continue to use it.

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That's as bad as my mom's alma mater being forced to change their mascot because of some of the local Aboriginal population thought it was offensive. If they think the mascot of a school is offensive, then they should ask that cities have to change their names as well (For example: Seattle is named after Chief Seattle) that are named after them or their tribe.

BillyMac Fri Nov 18, 2011 07:22pm

Yes I'm Offended, Now, Who Can I Sue ???
 
My great grandfather, a farmer, was born in Ireland, and he did not look like this:

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bainsey Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:59pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 799180)
In my humble, non-Native American opinion, there are good Native American mascots, and there are bad Native American mascots. If the Native Americans that live in particular areas like the mascot, and don't have any problem with the mascot, then the schools should be allowed to continue to use it.

Agreed in total. The confusing part about the aforementioned instance in my northeast corner is that "Indian" is good enough for the name of the locale of the Penobscot Nation (Indian Island), but offensive when used as a sports mascot.

BTW, there will be no game conflict. My Black Bears aren't hosting; they're going to Appalachain State in the second round (first round bye).

26 Year Gap Mon Nov 21, 2011 08:39am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 799136)
And.... the can of worms is open!

Yes, formerly Old Town Indians, changed sometime in the last ten years.

Still, the gym has this huge, beautiful painting of nearby Penobscot Nation with the caption "Old Town Indians." And, the name of the island home of the Penobscot Nation remains, "Indian Island." I worked a playoff soccer game last month that featured Indian Island Middle School (Warriors).

The lack of verbal parallelism never ceases to baffle me.

There has been overkill in VT where one school was forced to drop "Crusaders" as a moniker, and another pressured to drop the southern looking Colonel as the face of their mascot. Another school, who is honoring "Indian Joe", who helped a lot of the early settlers in the area, has refused to back down from their school nickname, although they did sand down the center circle a few years ago.
Has Nokomis been forced to change their nickname?

Rich Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:20am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 799152)
Have done 2 JH/MS 8th Boys games. So far, so good.

One little tidbit for those who work in gyms where the scoreboard shows the TO Countdown, if you can have it only show on the scoreboard controller it'd make the coaches happier.

And as the official, I'm asking you to turn the damned thing off, if possible. Two reasons:

(1) Every place that's had that, the timer told me he couldn't shorten the timeout. Don't know if this is just ignorance or the truth, but if both teams are ready to go, I don't want to wait for some timer to countdown.

(2) You put the timeout time on the scoreboard and the time left in the period disappears. Coaches, players, fans, AND officials like having that time up.

I've never heard of a worse idea than putting the timeout countdown on the scoreboard.

Rich Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:23am

Here we go
 
I'm doing a BV scrimmage tonight, a GV scrimmage tomorrow night, and another GV scrimmage on Wednesday. I feel for those of you who don't get paid for scrimmages. My 3 days (and $180) will pay for much of my new clothing / shoes this season.

First games are Saturday. GV game at 3PM and a BV game at 7:30PM. 4 games next week. Bring it on.

jdw3018 Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:24am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 799457)
And as the official, I'm asking you to turn the damned thing off, if possible. Two reasons:

(1) Every place that's had that, the timer told me he couldn't shorten the timeout. Don't know if this is just ignorance or the truth, but if both teams are ready to go, I don't want to wait for some timer to countdown.

(2) You put the timeout time on the scoreboard and the time left in the period disappears. Coaches, players, fans, AND officials like having that time up.

I've never heard of a worse idea than putting the timeout countdown on the scoreboard.

Couldn't agree more. I hate having the timeout time kept on the scoreboard. It serves no real purpose, and takes valuable information (time left) off the scoreboard.

bainsey Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:28am

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 799441)
There has been overkill in VT where one school was forced to drop "Crusaders" as a moniker, and another pressured to drop the southern looking Colonel as the face of their mascot.

What's good for the goose, I guess. But really, "southern looking?"

Nokomis remains the Warriors, and I haven't heard a ton of pressure to change that. (Just as well. Leave 'em alone.) Scarborough changed from the Redskins to the Red Storm. Wiscasset is also supposed to change from the Redskins, but I don't think that's been finalized yet.

26 Year Gap Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:13am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 799461)
What's good for the goose, I guess. But really, "southern looking?"

Nokomis remains the Warriors, and I haven't heard a ton of pressure to change that. (Just as well. Leave 'em alone.) Scarborough changed from the Redskins to the Red Storm. Wiscasset is also supposed to change from the Redskins, but I don't think that's been finalized yet.

A rebel Colonel apparently. Some people just don't have enough to do.

BillyMac Mon Nov 21, 2011 06:20pm

It's Either PETA, Or It's Vegans ???
 
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 799465)
A rebel Colonel apparently. Some people just don't have enough to do.

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chseagle Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 799457)
And as the official, I'm asking you to turn the damned thing off, if possible. Two reasons:

(1) Every place that's had that, the timer told me he couldn't shorten the timeout. Don't know if this is just ignorance or the truth, but if both teams are ready to go, I don't want to wait for some timer to countdown.

(2) You put the timeout time on the scoreboard and the time left in the period disappears. Coaches, players, fans, AND officials like having that time up.

I've never heard of a worse idea than putting the timeout countdown on the scoreboard.

That's what I am meaning is to have the countdown only show on the control panel. On the scoreboard system here that has it, there's a button labeled Time out in/out. If in a TO with the timer counting down, just press that button and the timer gets cancelled. On the Daktronics All-Sport 5000 Scoreboard controller, that TO In/Out button is present on the basketball controls insert.

BktBallRef Tue Nov 22, 2011 07:49am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 799383)
btw, there will be no game conflict. My black bears aren't hosting; they're going to appalachain state in the second round (first round bye).

Ouch! http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...s/blueevil.gif

bainsey Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:28am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 799541)

Why ouch? Maine is undefeated in Boone.

26 Year Gap Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:06am

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 799465)
A rebel Colonel apparently. Some people just don't have enough to do.

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 799502)

Case in point.:cool:

Freddy Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:20am

Thread Relevant Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 797479)
Misc. MS games with rookies and upcoming rookies day camps prior to first assignments the beginning of the month.
One woeful prospect looms large -- shift picks for our department at work determine our work schedule for the new year. I'm low on the totem pole here so the likelihood of having to work the second half of the week instead of the first half of the week is running about 25%. With a good V officiating schedule set on nights when I don't have to work late the days I work (get out at 6:30) now, if I get shifted to the other shift I'll have to bail on the entire year. Hope it doesn't come to that.
"Mongo just pawn in game of life."

Major update for which to give thanks to God:
Shift schedules for our department for next year were posted yesterday and I won't be getting bumped off my shift, which was the basis for all assignments given to me for this season.
Whereas my entire schedule was in danger of being completely turned back, I'm in the clear now. :)
Whew! Dodged a bullet on that one. All smiles today as I consume vast quantities of what was Ben Franklin's choice for the national bird.
Packers by 5. :D

Rob1968 Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:28am

Yes, officiating is part of our life
 
I'm happy for you, Freddy! When you get your games, go make us all proud.

26 Year Gap Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:56am

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 799930)
Major update for which to give thanks to God:
Shift schedules for our department for next year were posted yesterday and I won't be getting bumped off my shift, which was the basis for all assignments given to me for this season.
Whereas my entire schedule was in danger of being completely turned back, I'm in the clear now. :)
Whew! Dodged a bullet on that one. All smiles today as I consume vast quantities of what was Ben Franklin's choice for the national bird.
Packers by 5. :D

Great news. Go, Lions.


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