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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 01:15pm
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Actually, Mark, Do I now change my opinion of you to Mensch, or Chump? [/B]
Depends on which day of the week it is, right??

Anyway, here we have an assignor who is contracted by our elected board...he is paid a small fee by each school, and a percentage of the game fees we earn (I think it's 5%)...he earns it! He is allowed to hire an assistant assignor and pay whatever he chooses out of his salary (or pocket)...he assigns all HS, Middle School, rec league, city league, and whatever else our association officiates...he is very busy...he earns what he gets...he is also very well respected by coaches, AD's, and officials, so it's a great situation. i have never really heard anyone complain about how much he gets...
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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 02:41pm
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In my area, assignors are almost totally independent. Some might have a slight affiliation to an association, but in order for them to function, they need to hire officials outside of their "main" association.

And in many parts of our state, we do not have any assignors at all. So for many associations, this is not even an issue.

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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 04:16pm
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Juulie - I thought you were getting paid for the camp and you were just assigning on top of that. Anyway, congratulations.

No, I don't get anything for assigning for TBA. As you know, it's a non-profit and I've been a volunteer on the Board for 14 years. My only perk is that I can make out my own schedule. As you know, that's worth something. I always choose my own partners based on attitude, personality and sense of humor.

It's not all that time consuming anyway. Remember, I also make out the game schedule for the league so I can pretty much do what I want. Actually, it's harder making out the training schedule than the game schedule.

When will you have spring league info?
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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 04:26pm
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I always choose my own partners based on attitude, personality and sense of humor.

Gasp! You don't worry about "presence"?
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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 04:41pm
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I always choose my own partners based on attitude, personality and sense of humor.

Gasp! You don't worry about "presence"?
I think they get better games if they kickback good presents.
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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 06:20pm
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I always choose my own partners based on attitude, personality and sense of humor.

Gasp! You don't worry about "presence"?
The less of it they have, the more games they get. I give the most games to the refs who score the highest on the rules test, and who will eat the least at the season-ending pizza party.
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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 07:03pm
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The association that I used to belong, They paid the assignor a set fee at the begininning of the year, and it was voted upon by the association. The next year they raised the assignors fee. The asssignor has been in his position for many years. The first year I belonged to the association I felt like, they are paying that guy a lot of money to assign games and why should he get all that extra money. After a year I felt he was underpaid. I guess my point is, the schools and other leagues sign a contract with our association and the fees are paid by the party signing the contract with the association.

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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 09:22pm
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The less of it they have, the more games they get. I give the most games to the refs who score the highest on the rules test, and who will eat the least at the season-ending pizza party.
Which explains my schedule with the TBA...
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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 09:24pm
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...he earns what he gets...he is also very well respected by coaches, AD's, and officials, so it's a great situation. i have never really heard anyone complain about how much he gets...
Dave in Vancouver, and Howard in Portland. Do you suppose it's something in the water?
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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 10:14pm
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My association in Northern VA has contracts with most of the schools in the area (about 75 I believe). We have 2 commissioners who do the assigning -- 1 for rec and 1 for HS. The HS guy has an assistant who handles a lot of the F/JV stuff, particularly turn-backs for F/JV games. I believe we "can" be fined $25 if we turn back a game on the day of the game -- depending on the reason. The 2 main commissioners are paid 10% of our earning and the HS assignor splits his (somehow) with his assistant. The commissioners, like the rest of our board members are elected by the members -- usually for a 2 year term. In fact, we just closed the application process for the HS spot about a week ago. We had 1 applicant for the position and he is the incumbent. No one else really wanted to take on the job -- I know I wouldn't. We do not contract any games on our own. I think the guys really earn their 10% and quite frankly, I don't know how their spouses put up with the time they have to put into the schedules. We have some really top notch guys doing the assigning.
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 12:48am
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Well where I work, there are two assignors. The main assignor get 11% commission on all games. At least that is how it was put to me. Out of that, he hires an assistant to assign rec ball leagues and there are quite a bit. I did 200+ games including fed. Some officials make $6-10,000 a year. Last year, executive director told me they billed over $900,000 bucaroos. He works his tail off to cover games even answering the phone till 1:00 am. He has done it for quite a few years they tell me.
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 06:21am
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Ronald,
In bd. 12 your assignor is Joe Marosy. He is elected every two years. He does not officiate any of the games. He only assigns them. He has been the commissioner for more than 20 years. He handles all of the scholastic games for the entire association. He hires an assistant who handles all the rec ball. Each member pays 11% of their gross in assignor fees. This is in addition to your association dues ($55 approx.) and an activities fee (about $40) plus a $25 fee for MD registration. Joe takes 8% and gives his assistant 3%. His total for the year comes out to something like $75,000, and the board also pays his phone bill. I believe that he is retired now from his regular job, but he used to be the AD at Blair HS. I only mention this to make the point that assigning HS basketball was not his full-time job.
Just FYI in my last year with bd 12 I paid over $600 in fees.
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 06:22am
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Well where I work, there are two assignors. The main assignor get 11% commission on all games. At least that is how it was put to me. Out of that, he hires an assistant to assign rec ball leagues and there are quite a bit. I did 200+ games including fed. Some officials make $6-10,000 a year. Last year, executive director told me they billed over $900,000 bucaroos. He works his tail off to cover games even answering the phone till 1:00 am. He has done it for quite a few years they tell me.
I have been told that we do about $800K a year. Wish that was my salary!
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 08:07am
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WOW, I can't believe that some of you have to actually pay a fee to work a game!!

In Wisconsin, each conference has a commissioner that assigns the varsity games. Schools are then responsible for assigning the JV/Frosh games. Our association does the lower level assigning for the schools in our area but we don't charge a fee per game. In fact, the person who does this does not get paid (I had scheduled the past 3 years). On average, we assign about 400 games a season.

The only fees we pay are the membership fees for our State and Local associations.
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 09:37am
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The Varsity assignor in our chapter gets a flat salary of $3k that comes out of our "chapter dues" to the state. I myself am a high volume subchapter assignor for all the subvarsity stuff in my area, (to the tune of over 900 games a season) so I divide my invoices up among the schools by charging them $1 per game assigned. That way the smaller vendors pay a different amount than the larger vendors do.
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