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Old Mon Mar 31, 2003, 09:03pm
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Re: The Officials or the Game

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I'm a Rookie Official.


How do you guys watch the officiating and not watch the game?? When I'm watching a game I will concentrate on the refs and miss the game or watch the Game and miss the officiating. Its hard to see a game thats officated well when you are not officiating.


How do you do it????
Really easy. The camera is not fixated on the officials. You watch them much like you watch play when you are on the court. Part of being a good officials is to watch things out of the corner of your eye or in your periphery vision. And when the whistle blows, all eyes are on the officials anyway. Part of watching the officials comes with the more experience you get actually officiating.

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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 02:34am
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Since I hear Marquette is going to be allowed to play with six players during the final four, may I nominate Mike Kitts!
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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 02:44am
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I'll be rooting for Dick Cartmel...he did the Final Four last year. Dick is from our association here in Tri-Cities, Washington...so I gotta root for the homeboy.

Actually, I'm not sure how far he has gotten. Dick started out this year in Salt Lake City...and I haven't seen him since.

Another favorite of mine is Dave Libby...he put on a great camp I attended a few years back up in Bellingham, WA.

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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 08:09am
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I've heard rumors that Dave will be the alternate official.

Padgett's Dave, that is.
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 08:39am
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Here are my guesses for officiating crews for this Final Four. We will see what happens this weekend.
Kansas/Marquette
R= Gerald Beaudroux
U1= Ted Hillary
U2= Tony Greene

Syracuse/Texas
R= Jim Burr
U1= Dick Cartmell
U2= Tim Higgins

National Championship
R= Scott Thornley
U1= David Libbey
U2= Ed Hightower
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 09:41am
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Here are my guesses for officiating crews for this Final Four. We will see what happens this weekend.
Kansas/Marquette
R= Gerald Beaudroux
U1= Ted Hillary
U2= Tony Greene

Syracuse/Texas
R= Jim Burr
U1= Dick Cartmell
U2= Tim Higgins

National Championship
R= Scott Thornley
U1= David Libbey
U2= Ed Hightower
Maybe we should start a "predict the officials" pool!

Oh BTW, if Syracuse wins the title, a certain "howler monkey" will have outdone a whole herd of zebras in the ESPN pool!
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 10:18am
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Oh BTW, if Syracuse wins the title, a certain "howler monkey" will have outdone a whole herd of zebras in the ESPN pool!
Won't count.
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 11:05am
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I would be surprised if John Cahill, Jim Burr, or Tim Higgins would work a semifinal involving Syracuse, considering they work many games in the Big East each year. To get the final is one thing, but when there is another possible option, like the other semifinal, I would think the committee would try to make things as "unbiased" as possible, so to speak.
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 08:16pm
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2003 Final Four officials confirmed

Just recieved this information from another officiating site. Here are the officiating crews for this weekend's Final Four.

Semi-final #1
R= Karl Hess
U1= Mike Kitts
U2= Tom Lopes

Semi-final #2
R= Larry Rose
U1= Dave Libbey
U2= Donnee Grey

National Championship
R= Reggie Cofer
U1= Gerald Beaudroux
U2= Dick Cartmell
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 10:51pm
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...and let the bashing from NevadaRef commence...
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 11:10pm
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Do you know who will officiate at the Women's Final Four in Atlanta? Just curious. Thanks.
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Old Thu Apr 03, 2003, 12:34am
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Re: The Officials or the Game

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Originally posted by Woodee
I'm a Rookie Official.


How do you guys watch the officiating and not watch the game?? When I'm watching a game I will concentrate on the refs and miss the game or watch the Game and miss the officiating. Its hard to see a game thats officated well when you are not officiating.


How do you do it????
You learn this trick with the help of the VCR. Tape a game off television. Watch a play, then watch it again, then watch it again. Each time watch from a different point of view. In this way, you discipline your eyes to obey your brain which is consciously choosing what is the most importatnt thing to see. Try to see things out of the corner of your eye. It's harder on TV because some things aren't on screen, but you can get the hang of it after while.

This is also a great way to learn to watch off ball. Choose a play where the foul is called off-ball. It's SO hard at first to look away, but it gets easier. When you've seen a play on ball two or three tiems, you can finally "afford" to look off ball. You can learn this skill off-season, which speeds up your advancement a little bit.
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Old Thu Apr 03, 2003, 03:42am
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Don't know for sure, but you can just about bank on these names to be somwhere.. (Women's Final 4)

Lisa Mattingly
Brian Enterline
Scott Yarborough
Melissa Barlow
June Corteau
Wesley Dean
Bob Trammell
Sally Bell

I also wouldn't be surprised to see Dee Kantner.


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Old Thu Apr 03, 2003, 08:12am
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Re: Re: The Officials or the Game

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This is also a great way to learn to watch off ball. Choose a play where the foul is called off-ball. It's SO hard at first to look away, but it gets easier. When you've seen a play on ball two or three tiems, you can finally "afford" to look off ball. You can learn this skill off-season, which speeds up your advancement a little bit.
Great tip - I'll have to try it at some point.


Sometimes, though, I feel like I'm at the opposite extreme - during a game that I'm timing/scoring, I have to force myself to look on ball. Has anyone else noticed this happening to them when watching a game?
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Old Thu Apr 03, 2003, 08:40am
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Re: Re: Re: The Officials or the Game

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Sometimes, though, I feel like I'm at the opposite extreme - during a game that I'm timing/scoring, I have to force myself to look on ball. Has anyone else noticed this happening to them when watching a game?
Yeah, all the time.
Sitting in a group watching a game.
The fans groan.
I react with, "Huh?!!?!!"

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