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DrakeM Wed Mar 26, 2003 05:38am

http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Mar/03262...orts/41924.asp

Nevadaref Wed Mar 26, 2003 05:58am

This gentleman did a wonderful thing to help this parent. That said, he probably should not have been on the field. Looking at the picture of him, he is likely in his late fifties or early sixties and has already had one heart attack on the field during a game.
As an association assignor I would not take the risk to put him out there again after such a problem. As a friend or family member, I would counsel him not to being undertaking such a strenuous activity. Lastly, as an insurance broker, I would not provide coverage to any association that has an official which has had such a problem.
This last point is probably why the insurance rates for officials have skyrocketed and most associations are unable to provide coverage for their members.

cmckenna Wed Mar 26, 2003 09:45am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
That said, he probably should not have been on the field. Looking at the picture of him, he is likely in his late fifties or early sixties and has already had one heart attack on the field during a game.

So what your saying is that it is not possible for someone to get back in to very good physical shape after a heart attack... I know several people who have suffered heart attacks and have come back to run marathons and perform other physical activities.

There are many other causes such as defects, blockages etc. that can cause heart attacks that are not releated to physical activity. These can be corrected and the person can go on to live a normal healthy active life.

I looked at the picture as well and he appears to be in good physical condition...

Dan_ref Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:02am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
This gentleman did a wonderful thing to help this parent. That said, he probably should not have been on the field. Looking at the picture of him, he is likely in his late fifties or early sixties and has already had one heart attack on the field during a game.
As an association assignor I would not take the risk to put him out there again after such a problem. As a friend or family member, I would counsel him not to being undertaking such a strenuous activity. Lastly, as an insurance broker, I would not provide coverage to any association that has an official which has had such a problem.
This last point is probably why the insurance rates for officials have skyrocketed and most associations are unable to provide coverage for their members.

:rolleyes:

rockyroad Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:32am

Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
This gentleman did a wonderful thing to help this parent. That said, he probably should not have been on the field. Looking at the picture of him, he is likely in his late fifties or early sixties and has already had one heart attack on the field during a game.
As an association assignor I would not take the risk to put him out there again after such a problem. As a friend or family member, I would counsel him not to being undertaking such a strenuous activity. Lastly, as an insurance broker, I would not provide coverage to any association that has an official which has had such a problem.
This last point is probably why the insurance rates for officials have skyrocketed and most associations are unable to provide coverage for their members.

Are you serious??? This man helped save someone's life, and all you can do (other than one 10 word prop) is gripe about what you think his physical condition is??? To the family of the guy who probably would have died, that official is a hero...give me a break!

ChuckElias Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:37am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
As an association assignor I would not take the risk to put him out there again after such a problem.
I know one guy who's real glad that you're not an association assignor, then.

Chuck

ROMANO Wed Mar 26, 2003 05:46pm

We like to say in israel :
"The man who will save one man life ,it is like he save the all world"
I BELIVE IN THAT.

canuckrefguy Wed Mar 26, 2003 09:04pm

What a great story.

Those two guys are true heroes. And great examples of why everyone should have basic First Aid and CPR training.

Insurance what? Gimme a break.

PublicBJ Thu Mar 27, 2003 04:38pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
This gentleman did a wonderful thing to help this parent. That said, he probably should not have been on the field. Looking at the picture of him, he is likely in his late fifties or early sixties and has already had one heart attack on the field during a game.
As an association assignor I would not take the risk to put him out there again after such a problem. As a friend or family member, I would counsel him not to being undertaking such a strenuous activity. Lastly, as an insurance broker, I would not provide coverage to any association that has an official which has had such a problem.
This last point is probably why the insurance rates for officials have skyrocketed and most associations are unable to provide coverage for their members.

Hell, using that theory, let's just take him out back and shoot him...

BktBallRef Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:14pm

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
This last point is probably why the insurance rates for officials have skyrocketed and most associations are unable to provide coverage for their members.
Ever heard of 9/11?

Sad day. :(

Mark Padgett Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:08pm

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
I would counsel him not to being undertaking such a strenuous activity. Lastly, as an insurance broker, I would not provide coverage to any association that has an official which has had such a problem.

Apparently the fire department for which he works disagrees with you. I bet they have insurance coverage, and yes - his work is strenuous.

NICK Fri Mar 28, 2003 04:31am

I have had a small heart attack. took 8 weeks before I could go on court again to blow a whistle. There is good stress and bad stress. Refereeing basketball is good stress.

ChuckElias Fri Mar 28, 2003 09:58am

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Apparently the fire department for which he works disagrees with you. I bet they have insurance coverage, and yes - his work is strenuous.
I believe the article said he is a captain in the fire dept. I don't really know how the fire dept works, but in most police forces I think the Captain's position is mostly administrative, desk work. Maybe his job isn't too physically strenuous? I don't know, just thinking out loud.

Chuck


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