Tournament officials - Page 2

JRutledge · #16 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 28, 2003, 06:21am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref

My paper said that the three officials from the Seton Hall/G'town game were suspended for two games and banned from post season by the Big East. I am merely pointing out a loophole. It seems to me that there really was no punishment at all, since they could simply now pick up games from some other conference for which they work on those dates, and they could still make the post season. This is a farce!
PS Rich F as a G'town grad, I can't let it go. I will NEVER forgive Kitts for this.

There is no loophole. They suspended him from their post season, not everyone elses. Conferences can only suspend you from their games, not the other conferences you work. No different than any other independent contractor in the country. These officials do not work for the NCAA, they are picked based on what each conference provides them. Nothing wrong about that.

Get a grip dude!!

Peace

Mark Dexter · #17 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 28, 2003, 08:44am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
It seems to me that there really was no punishment at all, since they could simply now pick up games from some other conference for which they work on those dates, and they could still make the post season. This is a farce!
PS Rich F as a G'town grad, I can't let it go. I will NEVER forgive Kitts for this.

[Edited by Nevadaref on Mar 28th, 2003 at 05:05 AM]

In that case, Nevada, can I assume that we'll see your resignation the next time you completely blow a call or a rule interpretation?

This game happened when? Time to let it go.

(Of course, as a GW student, I loooove to see Georgetown lose

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Nevadaref · #18 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 28, 2003, 08:44am

Thanks Jeff, you have made my point exactly. There is no way that the NCAA can hold any of these officials accountable for what happens in games that are sanctioned by the NCAA. Even though they are supposed to be the ultimate authority of all these games. The decentralization of authority is to blame for this. Since each conference gets together and hires their own assignor, the officials have five different bosses if they work five different conferences. Conceivably, they could work a game each day of the week for each one of them.
This would be like having five bosses at your work and in order to get a year-end bonus all you have to do is please one of them. You could care less about doing a quality job for the other four.
That is rediculous!

ChuckElias · #19 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 28, 2003, 09:50am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
That is rediculous!

So is your crusade against Kitts. Never forgive him? Please

By the way, although I am Mr. Grammar Guy and not Mr. Spelling Guy, your spelling might also be considered "ridiculous".

Chuck

Jurassic Referee · #20 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 28, 2003, 09:54am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
That is rediculous!

By the way, although I am Mr. Grammar Guy and not Mr. Spelling Guy, your spelling might also be considered "ridiculous".

Don't forget he's a Georgetown grad.

rockyroad · #21 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 28, 2003, 10:32am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
Thanks Jeff, you have made my point exactly. There is no way that the NCAA can hold any of these officials accountable for what happens in games that are sanctioned by the NCAA. Even though they are supposed to be the ultimate authority of all these games. The decentralization of authority is to blame for this. Since each conference gets together and hires their own assignor, the officials have five different bosses if they work five different conferences. Conceivably, they could work a game each day of the week for each one of them.
This would be like having five bosses at your work and in order to get a year-end bonus all you have to do is please one of them. You could care less about doing a quality job for the other four.
That is rediculous!

Actually, it's more like being a building contractor, and working on a different house each day of the week - for example, my neighbor who is a sheet-rocker...just because he works at a different house each day does NOT mean he does a lousy job or that he needs one centralized body telling him where he can or can't work...if he does a bad job at one house, he won't be hired back by the owner/builder...Kitts made a mistake, and was punished by that conference...the fact that he is good enough to work other places is good for him...as others have said, get over it...to quote a famous Jewish guy: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone"...analyze Kitt's mistake, learn from it, but "never forgive him for it?" Please...

dblref · #22 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 28, 2003, 12:02pm

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Originally posted by Nevadaref

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Originally posted by Nevadaref

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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
I don't know about NIT, but NCAA is pretty straightforward:

Conference assignors submit a list of their officials, which are listed by "rank," so to speak.

To whom do they submit these lists?

PS I heard that Mike Kitts was not on the Big East list this year due to the six on the court incident, but he must have been on the list for some other conference since he worked the Cinci/Gonzaga game. I think that is terrible.

If you are privvy to the lists how come you don't know how the selections are made?

My paper said that the three officials from the Seton Hall/G'town game were suspended for two games and banned from post season by the Big East. I am merely pointing out a loophole. It seems to me that there really was no punishment at all, since they could simply now pick up games from some other conference for which they work on those dates, and they could still make the post season. This is a farce!
PS Rich F as a G'town grad, I can't let it go. I will NEVER forgive Kitts for this.

[Edited by Nevadaref on Mar 28th, 2003 at 05:05 AM]

Are you also still mad at the player (think it was Brown?) that threw the ball to James Worthy (NC) in the NCAA championship game? That's a long time to be mad -- too much stress.

TriggerMN · #23 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 28, 2003, 01:54pm

Is this the same Georgetown that reportedly graduated Patrick Ewing when he couldn't even sign his own name on his NBA contract?

Nevadaref · #24 (**permalink**) Sat Mar 29, 2003, 07:13pm

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Originally posted by dblref
Are you also still mad at the player (think it was Brown?) that threw the ball to James Worthy (NC) in the NCAA championship game? That's a long time to be mad -- too much stress.

Never was upset about that. You see at the time that game was played I was only seven years old! I had no affiliation with the school back then.

To Chuck,
Thanks for fixing the spelling error. If it had not been for spellcheck on the computer, I doubt that I would have ever made it to college. More importantly you have really helped me with your jab because I have realized that I mispronounce that word and that is what caused the spelling problem. I spelled it the way I say it. So you have made me look better not only in writing, but in speaking.

Nevadaref · #25 (**permalink**) Sat Mar 29, 2003, 07:15pm

I noticed that Kitts did the Michigan State/Maryland game. It made me wonder if he would be assigned to an NCAA tournament game involving a Big East team. Just a thought.

ChuckElias · #26 (**permalink**) Sat Mar 29, 2003, 07:33pm

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
I have realized that I mispronounce that word and that is what caused the spelling problem. I spelled it the way I say it.

Nevada, I'm glad you took it that way, b/c that's exactly why I now know how to spell it. My 9th grade English teacher jabbed me just as I jabbed you. "You don't REdicule someone; you RIdicule him." Always stuck with me.

Chuck