"a"=offense "b"=defense

hello,
craziest play i have ever encountered as a basketball official in 12 years on the hard wood. "a" has the ball for a throw in after a made basket by "b" on the baseline; for some odd reason when the ball was thrown in too "a1" she seem rattled by the double team instead of passing the ball she shoots it and gets fouled hard. i was the head referee; we counted the basket and went too the other end too shoot the 1 shot was this the corect administration?
thanks
tim harris


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Oh, my !!!
 

tim, tim, tim.
You made an Oweee!
Keep readin'. ;)

OK Tim, I'll take a stab at it.

Given that the definition of a "try" by A1 includes the requirement that she is shooting at A's basket, this does not qualify as a "try'. That means the foul is not a shooting foul. Therefore, A1 either gets a 1&1, or a throw-in from the closest spot to the foul.

That said, score the basket for team B and administer the penalty for the common foul on A1 (which ever applies). Be sure that if you are in the bonus, A1 shoots the 1&1 at A's basket :)


Now, if someone doesn't beet me to the punch :D this will be the third post. Someone will have something to add regardless, I'm sure.

Blackhawk

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<s>mick</s> dart thrower

Since this went in the wrong basket, the ball would have to have been in the basket prior to the foul for the points to count. If not, the foul causes the ball to become dead and no points are scored. There is no continuation because this is not a try or tap.

As MP said,you only score the basket if the ball has gone through before the foul by B1 occurs. Casebook play 4.40.2SIT covers it.

Yep, no question.

Padgett found his meds!! :D

ANd, if the ball did go in first, the ball also becomes dead, so the foul won't happen (unless it's intentional or flagrant).

So, on this play, you'll (generally) either have points for B or a foul on B, but not both.

Shot in wrong basket
 

It's not a shot, even though the points are scored. It's a regular old foul, though.

Right you are about the Casebook reference . . .
 

What if . . . the ball goes through the basket . . . the ball is dead, is it not, with the clock running. If the foul occurs before the ball becomes alive, by virtue of being at the disposal player making the throw-in, what kind of a foul is a contact foul at that point?

Re: Right you are about the Casebook reference . . .
 

JeffTheRef,
I've got three choices: <li>intentional,<li>flagrant,<li>incidental contact.

If there is any thought required at all, I'll have incidental contact.

mick

Dead ball contact
 

Mick: I agree. It's just one of the first 2000 situations it's nice to have thought through in advance, eh?

Re: Dead ball contact
 

Often there is a lot of contact after a basket as one team is hurrying down the floor, some players are running after the ball to throw it in and the others are trying to find their man.
We know there's gonna be some bumping, but we don't wanna allow crashin' and mashin'.