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pop_ey Thu Sep 01, 2011 03:06pm

Free Throw Violation Debate
 
If the free thrower has a foot in the air over the edge of the free-throw line, but not on the floor before ball hits rim or backboard is that a violation?

bob jenkins Thu Sep 01, 2011 03:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by pop_ey (Post 785050)
If the free thrower has a foot in the air over the edge of the free-throw line, but not on the floor before ball hits rim or backboard is that a violation?

Has either side in the debate referenced the rules book?

APG Thu Sep 01, 2011 03:24pm

The rule book is very clear about the restrictions placed on the shooter. 9-1-3 (e).

pop_ey Thu Sep 01, 2011 03:29pm

9-1-3e
 
I did reference this rule to my partner and said that is would be a violation on the free-thrower. He still seems to think that the foot would need to be on the floor past boundry line as in out of bounds. Just trying to get others opinion to show him the error of his ways:)

APG Thu Sep 01, 2011 03:31pm

When does your partner think a violation occurs when we call a delay of game warning during a throw-in on the defense for breaking the plane?

pop_ey Thu Sep 01, 2011 03:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 785059)
When does your partner think a violation occurs when we call a delay of game warning during a throw-in on the defense for breaking the plane?

Thanks, will use to help him understand.

BillyMac Thu Sep 01, 2011 05:02pm

Like A Pane Of Glass ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 785056)
The rule book is very clear about the restrictions placed on the shooter. 9-1-3 (e).

The free thrower shall not have either foot beyond the vertical plane of the
edge of the free-throw line which is farther from the basket or the freethrow
semicircle line.

habram Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:19am

Violation Debate
 
is it a violation yes or no

Raymond Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by habram (Post 785759)
is it a violation yes or no

Did you check the rule or any of the posts above yours?

habram Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:23am

My question , is it a violation
answer yes or no

Mark Padgett Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by habram (Post 785761)
answer yes or no

OK, I will. Yes or no. Happy now? :p

BktBallRef Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by habram (Post 785761)
My question , is it a violation
answer yes or no

Yes or no, one is the correct answer.

Which do you think it is based on the posts or reading the rule?

APG Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by habram (Post 785759)
is it a violation yes or no

The exact rule was referenced and even posted for you to read it.

Hugh Refner Mon Sep 05, 2011 04:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by habram (Post 785761)
My question , is it a violation
answer yes or no

Perhaps.

BigBaldGuy Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by pop_ey (Post 785050)
If the free thrower has a foot in the air over the edge of the free-throw line, but not on the floor before ball hits rim or backboard is that a violation?


Are you serioulsy asking this question? There are bigger fish to fry during a game than this play.

tref Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBaldGuy (Post 786209)
Are you serioulsy asking this question?

Thats what the Forum is for...

Clark Kent Wed Sep 07, 2011 01:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by habram (Post 785761)
My question , is it a violation
answer yes or no

9-1-3 (e)
"The free thrower shall not have either foot beyond the vertical plane of the edge of the free-throw line which is farther from the basket or the free-throw line semicircle line."

So yes would be the answer

tomegun Wed Sep 07, 2011 01:49pm

I think asking for help with the interpretation would cut to the chase. Depending on Habram's experience, that may be what is needed at this point.

bob jenkins Wed Sep 07, 2011 02:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBaldGuy (Post 786209)
Are you serioulsy asking this question? There are bigger fish to fry during a game than this play.

I agree there's a difference between the literal reading of the rule and how it is usually called. He seemed to be asking about the former (and you need to know the former to understand the latter, and when it should be called.)

BillyMac Wed Sep 07, 2011 05:46pm

Echo Canyon ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 785078)
The free thrower shall not have either foot beyond the vertical plane of the
edge of the free-throw line which is farther from the basket or the freethrow
semicircle line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 786224)
The free thrower shall not have either foot beyond the vertical plane of the edge of the free-throw line which is farther from the basket or the free-throw line semicircle line.

Is there an echo in here?

26 Year Gap Wed Sep 07, 2011 08:55pm

I swear I just saw "That Guy".

habram Thu Nov 29, 2012 04:12pm

Thank you for your response

JugglingReferee Thu Nov 29, 2012 07:17pm

Come back before Jan 2014. :p

Terrapins Fan Thu Nov 29, 2012 08:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBaldGuy (Post 786209)
Are you serioulsy asking this question? There are bigger fish to fry during a game than this play.

So, we should pick and choose the rules we want to enforce. The rules are there for a reason, while I will agree we don't enforce every rule on eveer play, we do rule on ADVANTAGE/DISADVANTAGE and if the shooter gets a rebound because he crossed the vertical plane before the ball hit the rim, you've got to call that the same as you would if someone beyond the 3 point arch broke the plane before the ball hit the rim.

MD Longhorn Fri Nov 30, 2012 09:20am

What is a three point arch?


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