CSU-UNLV

[rockyroad]

Originally posted by JRutledge
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The game was not won or lost on that incident. But you will claim it does I guess.

Peace [/B]

Are you serious?? Aren't you the one who keeps whining about people putting words into your mouth?? Give me a break...I never claimed anything even close to that stupid statement...get a grip.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by rockyroad


...what I have been trying to say is that the lack of a foul call combined with the injury put CSU at a tremendous disadvantage...in my humble opinion, it was a foul...in my humble opinion, CSU got screwed...not a CSU fan - that was the first time I had seen them play all year...

These are your words. Colorado State won the game. Colorado State won the game without their top player on UNLV's home court I might add. Colorado State did not get a foul called in their favor, in your opinion which for some reason I guess caused the injury. Because if the foul was called or not called, the player still got injured. And at the time of the injury, Colorado State University was behind if I am not mistaken.

Originally posted by rockyroad
Are you serious?? Aren't you the one who keeps whining about people putting words into your mouth?? Give me a break...I never claimed anything even close to that stupid statement...get a grip

I am not putting words in your mouth. But when someone suggests that a team got screwed, to me that means that it hurt their chances to win. Maybe that is what you did not mean, but that is why I asked the question in the first place. To me when you win a game, I really do not see how you get screwed in the process. Call me crazy, but that is how I look at it. Especially when that one play or no-call had nothing to do with the actual outcome. Either way Colorado State won or lost that game. There was still plenty of time left in the game when that happen.

Your comments are left to interpretation. It is not always what your exact words are, it is what they also imply or suggest. To me you are suggesting that one had to do with the other. I just wanted to know how. But you are the one telling me that I am stupid and need to get a grip when I am asking for clarifications on YOUR words.

Peace

[rockyroad]

When did I call you stupid??? Since when is saying a statement is stupid equal with calling a person stupid?? Not in my area, anyway - as you so often like to say...and I never said that the play cost them the game, or that the injury would have been prevented had a foul been called, or any of the other things you somehow "interpreted" from my words...

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by rockyroad
When did I call you stupid??? Since when is saying a statement is stupid equal with calling a person stupid?? Not in my area, anyway - as you so often like to say...and I never said that the play cost them the game, or that the injury would have been prevented had a foul been called, or any of the other things you somehow "interpreted" from my words...

Well Rocky, you made a statement. I asked you a question and you answered it. We do not agree. We are not going to agree. My posts were not to try to agree, just to understand what you were saying. So since you are saying that you did not say anything I "interpreted," I will say again that I disagree. The two have nothing to do with each other, no matter what you say. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it.

Peace

[rockyroad]

Ok then, we disagree...I happen to think that jumping on top of another player is a foul, and you don't, so we disagree...I happen to think that it stinks that in the process of jumping on top of another player, the "jumper" sticks his finger in the players eye causing that unprotected player to have to leave the game, you seem to think that is fine, so we disagree...I can live with that...

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by rockyroad
Ok then, we disagree...I happen to think that jumping on top of another player is a foul, and you don't, so we disagree...I happen to think that it stinks that in the process of jumping on top of another player, the "jumper" sticks his finger in the players eye causing that unprotected player to have to leave the game, you seem to think that is fine, so we disagree...I can live with that...

My comments have nothing to do whether there was a foul or not. I did not see the play. I personally do not care if there was a foul or not. But if the actions you state happen, I do not see how the officials are at fault. If the action caused the "poking of the eye," it is not like the officials could do the Jedi mind trick and stop that from happening. So I guess if a foul was called, the "eye poking" would have not taken place. I will remember that next time I officiate a game. I will remember to make sure that I use my Jedi powers to stop any contact. Better yet, why don't we all just sit in the stands and do that so we do not have to blow our whistles. Sounds like a plan to me.

Peace

[ChuckElias]

After the "People Skills" thread and now this one, I'm left wondering what marvelous gift Jeff has that allows him to absolutely and completely miss a point so obvious that if it were an iceberg, the Titanic would hit it.

Jeff, you have this amazing knack for completely ignoring even the most basic point and then arguing that the point is wrong. OR you take the point and twist it into something which was clearly and obviously never intended by the original writer. Then after twisting the original point, you make an obvious and/or irrelevant point which you think is justified by saying that it's just your opinion. And to top it off, you somehow think that your irrelevant reply to the twisted original statement shows that you have "proven" something.

I think I gave you way too much credit in our previous discussion. I was assuming that you actually knew how to have a constructive debate.

Twist on, McDuff.

Chuck

[rockyroad]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
After the "People Skills" thread and now this one, I'm left wondering what marvelous gift Jeff has that allows him to absolutely and completely miss a point so obvious that if it were an iceberg, the Titanic would hit it.

Jeff, you have this amazing knack for completely ignoring even the most basic point and then arguing that the point is wrong. OR you take the point and twist it into something which was clearly and obviously never intended by the original writer. Then after twisting the original point, you make an obvious and/or irrelevant point which you think is justified by saying that it's just your opinion. And to top it off, you somehow think that your irrelevant reply to the twisted original statement shows that you have "proven" something.

I think I gave you way too much credit in our previous discussion. I was assuming that you actually knew how to have a constructive debate.

Twist on, McDuff.

Chuck

Whew...thanks Chuck...for a while there I thought I was maybe losing it...I don't care what JR and Dan say, you're ok for a BoSox fan!!

[just another ref]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Twist on, McDuff........

......and be damned him that first cries, "Hold, enough!"

But perhaps this is more appropriate:

"Peace, peace, Mercutio, peace!"

All of this is Shakespeare, and you thought this board had no culture. Wait, I don't mean that anyone actually said that this board had no culture, that is just my opinion. I think what the person actually said was that you wouldn't know Shakespeare if it poked you in the eye, which is possible because Shakespeare was one violent dude and there were no guys with whistles to mediate back in those days.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by rockyroad
I don't care what JR and Dan say, you're ok for a BoSox fan!!

You like me! You really like me!!

(It is almost Oscar time, after all. )

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by just another ref

......and be damned him that first cries, "Hold, enough!"

Hmmmm!

I thought it was "Lay off,McDoff,I've had enoff".

[just another ref]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Hmmmm!

I thought it was "Lay off,McDoff,I've had enoff".

That may be poetry, but it ain't Shakespeare.

[JRutledge]

Chuck,

Just like you did, I asked a question. I wanted to know what two things that in my mind had nothing to do with each other. When I got the answer, I disagreed with it. Nothing more, nothing less. There was nothing to prove. There was not major point to make. I did not get a trophy for my efforts or the discussion. I just wanted so understanding of Rocky's point. I was not the only person that disagreed or had a different point of view. But folks like you and rocky try to make every discussion into a major event. That is why you are still taking about "people skills" and I have sense moved on, I cannot even remember what that was all about. But then again, this board is not my life. I guess I just look at the world and officiating differently.

Peace

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by JRutledge
I just look at the world differently.

That's a big "N.S."

[canuckrefguy]

I wondered how a thread about "CSU-UNLV" could have amassed three pages of responses.

I should have known....


CE & Rut