Federation Contemplated Rule Changes

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by JoeT

I hope not. I hope never, but it seems like we'll wind up with that eventually.

My own opinion is that the shot clock is actually ok as long as it's not ridiculously short (24 seconds) and you have people who know how to operate it.

If you have HS kids who are just filling in at the JV game after school, then it's a nightmare. But when it's run correctly, I think it helps the game. If nothing else, it eliminates the 2-minute "hold for the last shot". Blech.

Twenty-four seconds is fine for the pros, but the NCAA's 35 seconds is better for college. We use 30 seconds for HS here in MA, but I'd be more than willing to go to 35 seconds.

Chuck

[JoeT]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
... just an Illinois thing....
Chuck

Is there a list of Illinois' or other states' exceptions to rules available online? I check the IHSA web site, but I can't find any.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by JoeT
Is there a list of Illinois' or other states' exceptions to rules available online?

Not that I know of. Jeff?? Bob?? A little help?

Chuck

[Adam]

http://www.ighsau.org/hoops/rulesadaption.html

That's the rules adaptations for the Iowa Girls High School Athletic Union. Iowa girls and boys operate under different ruling bodies, and I couldn't find a similar list under the boys at http://www.iahsaa.org .

Adam

[Dubby]

I hope they don't add a shot clock. Unlike college or the Pro's, high schools have to play with the hand that is dealt to them. If that means they need to slow the ball down in order to win, they should. It's called coaching. The rules in high school should not be there to determine the style of the game. High school rules are not, nor should they be, implemented for the fans. The NBA and to a certain extent the NCAA is there for the pleasure of the fans. But when we get into saying that one team is better because they play more up tempo I think we hurt the overall integrity of the game.

[Dubby]

I hope they don't add a shot clock. Unlike college or the Pro's, high schools have to play with the hand that is dealt to them. If that means they need to slow the ball down in order to win, they should. It's called coaching. The rules in high school should not be there to determine the style of the game. High school rules are not, nor should they be, implemented for the fans. The NBA and to a certain extent the NCAA is there for the pleasure of the fans. But when we get into saying that one team is better because they play more up tempo I think we hurt the overall integrity of the game.

[stan-MI]

I hope they adopt a team control foul. I've never understood why the rules make a distinction between a foul committed by an offensive player with the ball and a foul committed by an offensive player without the ball.

[johnSandlin]

Stan,

I could not agree with you more. I am from Michigan as well, and the mercy rule needs to be brought back ASAP.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by stan-MI
I hope they adopt a team control foul. I've never understood why the rules make a distinction between a foul committed by an offensive player with the ball and a foul committed by an offensive player without the ball.

I've never understood why the rules make a distinction between a foul committed by an offensive player with the ball and a defensive player without the ball.

BTW - with school funding the way it is, you won't see a shot clock mandated by NF. Even if it is, many states will have an exception.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by JoeT

Is there a list of Illinois' or other states' exceptions to rules available online? I check the IHSA web site, but I can't find any.

It is not an exception, it is a NF Experimental Rule. You might find it on the NF site. Illiniois has been used a few times with experimental rules or mechanics and then put into law if you will. For example the "60 Second Timout Signal." We used that for a year than it was changed. I believe the "Start the Clock" signal was used here too, but I cannot remember for sure.

Peace

[JoeT]

Originally posted by JRutledge

It is not an exception, it is a NF Experimental Rule. You might find it on the NF site. Illiniois has been used a few times with experimental rules or mechanics and then put into law if you will. For example the "60 Second Timout Signal." We used that for a year than it was changed. I believe the "Start the Clock" signal was used here too, but I cannot remember for sure.

Peace

Thanks!!! Are you working any of the IL HS boys' playoff games this week?