Make The Call
 

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I'm going Block, LGP was not there in my opinion. It would be nice if the restricted area arc was painted, which is finally coming this year

I don't think the restricted area would be in play here since the arc is 3 ft...a little bit smaller than the NBA's four feet.

Could be right, its difficult to tell from this view.

Block.

Moving towards and into the shooter after the shooter left the floor.

Block. Did not have LGP when the shooter left the floor.

Good Time As Any For A Blarge ???
 

I can't disagree with Camron's call, but the defender getting to his spot, and the shooter becoming airborne, both happen at "about" the same time. Tough call, especially in real time.

AllPurposeGamer: Nice video. Thanks.

Block.

Trail and Lead posotions
 

So, it appears that this is a two-man crew, as the over-all play is on the camera side of the floor, and the Lead doesn't rotate. The defender that got the call was definitely a secondary defender, and if the Lead were on the camera side of the floor, he may have been able to see the movement of that defender from start to finish.
It's difficult for the Trail, calling official, to watch both the primary defender and the secondary defender on this play. And it appears that having to do so may be the reason for the Charge call.
BTW, IMO, block.

This was one of my first thoughts on the play...if this was 3-man, then I'd be saying that the lead was too slow to rotate strong side. Even in two-man I tend to do strong-side mechanic quite a bit and might have rotated in this situation. I appears the lead starts to rotate strong side when the ball is in the corner but decides against it when the ball is skipped to the top of the key.

As for the play, I also have a blocking foul...defender got to the spot after the offensive player was airborne.

I would be more apt to make the call on the intial defender with the arm on the shooter guiding him into the defense while challenging the shot. The play is bang bang in real time. I think it is a block but very close at game speed. Easy call is on the intial defender and avoids dealing with the block/charge in this case.

IMO, that contact is marginal at best. That arm was inconsequential to where the offensive player wanted to go...I'm only calling that if the push is blatant or if the offensive player would have avoided the contact save for a push.

I totally agree on all points Billy.

It's hard to tell exactly when LGP begins from this angle, because the defender's right foot is eclipsed by #2 Blue's head.

Someone Finally Agreed With Me ...
 

It only took 7,416 posts. I wish that Jurassic Referee was back from his sabbatical to see this. I thinking about having tref's post bronzed, or made into a commemorative plate.

Without looking at anybody else's answer (and with no ability to slow down the video) I have B1 still sliding into place after A1 elevates.

Block.

But in real time seeing it just once, I have no problems with an official's account of this being a PC. It's pretty close.

Great video APG! Thanks.

block...and NOT the C's calling area. should have been lead all the way.

This might depend on what mechanics you use -- does L have the entire lane, or just to the middle of the lane?

I'm fine with the charge call here.

unless the block/charge contact occurs outside the lane on C's side - imho, the Lead should have block/charge calls on drives to the basket....the defender involved in these plays is almost never the one guarding the ball - he/she is coming over from the weak-side...who better to see that than the Lead?

L can see it if the defender comes from the L's side. But, this defender came from the wing on C's side. L would not be looking there (or if he was, then he should have come across).

Looks like a college game, but due to no L rotation & the position of the calling official, it seems to be a crew of 2. I still cant figure it out... 2 or 3 person crew APG?

2-3 seconds in, the L does venture to the Z, which could be evidence that he was going to rotate, which may imply a 3-person crew.

Not a college game...it's a HS game in the Washington Catholic Athletic Conference. Home team is Gonzaga College High School. Not sure who the visiting team is. I am guessing it's 3-person by the depth of the guy on the sideline who makes the PC call. The L looks like he is going to rotate until the ball is kicked back out to top of key area...

As far as the call...no problem with the PC call at full speed. On replay, I would be kicking myself because it should be a block.

The L ventures where?

That's what I thought, too. If this is two man, that's the deepest T I've ever seen.

To the Z. It's a letter in "Gonzaga". :p

Ah. I thought it was some new positioning shorthand

HOur training here is that lead has half of the lane. If he's looking at the other half, he needs to rotate. Note, for technical reasons, I haven't seen the play, I'm just responding to the idea that the lead has the entire lane in three-person.

I have a question: why do those of u who said block, have a block?? This seems to be a clear cut block, the player continues to slide over and towards the off. Player after he has went airborne and correct me if I'm wrong but a player is allwed to establish LGP and move to maintain, but he must be in position to take the contact once the off. Player has went airborne, correct?

Correct, a player may move to maintain LGP but must be in the path before the opponent becomes airborne.

I don't understand your question. You asked why they're saying it's a block and proceed to explain why it's a block? Where is the disconnect?

Agreed. He asked and answered his own question. :confused:

I'm sorry I mean to ask why do those of u who say charge, say that? I apologize for the screw up. Didn't mean to Do that.

The Catholic league always uses 3-man, at least they did when I lived there.

I would also call a block on this play.

The game was officiating with a 3-man crew.