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canuckrefguy Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:53pm

Re: Fair and Informative?
 
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
"...I find your remarks regarding the officiating at your game to be unprofessional, insulting and ludicrous. Blaming the referees for the lack of skill of your players sends the message to those kids that they don't have to take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions..."
I like everything you wrote except the part where you mentioned his "players' lack of skill". That's where you maybe crossed the line from standing up for the officials to very politely sh*t-talking the coach. If you'd have replaced "the lack of skill of your players" with "the game you lost", I think you nailed it.

You maybe just gave him more ammo to throw back at you.

Right on for calling him on the carpet, though.

just another ref Wed Feb 26, 2003 01:30am

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett


I was busy washing my socks, so my wife took the call. She told me she could only understand that he asked for me, but she could not make out anything else he said.

My wife spent some time in the South when she was younger and usually has no problem understanding thick accents, but she said she had no idea what he was saying.

I'm not poking fun at his accent, but only saying that it was exceptionally thick and that makes it difficult for those up here in the Pacific Northwest (where we speak perfect English, of course) to understand.

Mark, I looked at your profile to see exactly where you lived that people don't understand Cajun. "Tell dat sorry
a** ref to brung hisse'f to de phone rat now so I can tol' him a t'ing or two about basketball." And now he has your phone number. This means he knows or can find out where you live. hmmmmm... If he apologizes and invites you to
come down and see him and take a swamp tour, don't go.

Croquet? Isn't it a bit nerve-wracking to call things
(what do you call in croquet?) against people that are all holding big hammers?

rainmaker Wed Feb 26, 2003 02:11am

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Originally posted by just another ref
Croquet? Isn't it a bit nerve-wracking to call things
(what do you call in croquet?) against people that are all holding big hammers?

J.A.R. -- Haven't you ever watched professional croquet on TV? The ref gets the biggest hammer!

canuckrefguy Wed Feb 26, 2003 02:13am

Croquet...what about Track and Field?

The refs there get to carry GUNS!

:D

just another ref Wed Feb 26, 2003 02:25am

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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by just another ref
Croquet? Isn't it a bit nerve-wracking to call things
(what do you call in croquet?) against people that are all holding big hammers?

J.A.R. -- Haven't you ever watched professional croquet on TV? The ref gets the biggest hammer!

Are you kidding me? Really, if you are it is sailing right over my head. I didn't know there was professional croquet and have never seen any kind of croquet on tv. What does the ref hit with his hammer?

Jeremy Hohn Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:08am

All this looks like is sour grapes on the coache's part, because he has a lot of parents/school board members wanting answers why he can't beat a certain team, and when he can't he makes a bunch of weak *** finger pointing to the officials. Officials have NEVER cost anyone a game. I would ask him to mail you a copy of the game tape, watch it, and THEN we can really get a feel for what happened!

Mark Padgett Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:28pm

I put croquet in my profile almost as a joke. Every year, there is a charity croquet match near here between a retirement home and a local Lions Club. All the proceeds go to support the Lions Club summer camp for the blind. Local politicians and celebrities are brought in as "ringers" on the teams, and I "officiate", which consists mostly of walking around with a portable microphone and making jokes about the players. We all wear "summer whites" including straw hats and the retirement home serves lemonade and cucumber sandwiches.

Two years ago, our local state representative (who is a personal friend, but a terrible athlete) almost lost to some old lady with a walker. I haven't let him forget it since.

Maybe I should put my real hobby in my profile - amateur gynecology.

As to the disgruntled coach, he emailed me again this morning and said he doesn't need videotape to tell him he had girls laying on the floor. He said other teams at his school sent tape in to the state association and it didn't do them any good. Gee - I wonder why?

Also, regarding my comment about "over the back" not being a foul - here's his reply:

"It must be a call because some of your colleagues still use it."

I must admit he has a point there. Guys - stop calling this. It makes the rest of us look bad.


Ridgeben Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:39pm

I work in the association where this guy coaches (although I am sure the refs in this case were not from our association being that it was a playoff game involving a local school) and I have never seen any ref call an "over the back" call. I have seen plenty call a push, but never the dreaded "over the back". I am sure he sees what he wants to see, and when a pushing call is made after he screams "she is on my girl's back!" he equates the two.

I am thinking that this guy now wishes that he had not taken that interview. What do you think?

BktBallRef Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:42pm

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Originally posted by Ridgeben
I am thinking that this guy now wishes that he had not taken that interview. What do you think?
I agree. Having to deal with Padgett is more than any coach should have to deal with. But in all fairness to the coach, he probably had no idea Mark existed. :D

Jurassic Referee Wed Feb 26, 2003 01:15pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett

Maybe I should put my real hobby in my profile - amateur gynecology.


Oh,my! :D


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