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Old Tue Feb 18, 2003, 06:05pm
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2003, 09:48am
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Take Joel Martin, for instance.

The Big Spring boys#, basketball head coach instituted a rule early in the season that requires players to sit the rest of the game and the following game after picking up a technical foul.



Would any one call a game or technical fouls differently if you know that the coach will sit a player the rest of the game, and possibly the next game, if they got one?

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Old Wed Feb 19, 2003, 10:10am
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2003, 10:15am
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Nope.
Bard, no, really, quit mincing your words. You've got to say what you mean. We don't have all day to read these posts.
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2003, 10:49am
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No way.

In Montana you must serve a one game suspension at the level you were ejected, before participating at any level. An AD once stated to the State Office that "The officials need to understand the consequences of their calls". He made this argument in an effort to circumvent the rule for his particular school's assistant coach, who was ejected in a JV game and was not going to be able to participate in the State Playoffs.

I respectfully disagree.
I think that the players and coaches need to understand the consequences of their actions. When officials start altering their calls based on what may or may not happen in each different situation, it will be impossible to be consistent. I feel that officials need to work each game as consistently as humanly possible, if that means that a player of coach misses a game, so be it. That player or coach knew what the consequences of his/her actions were before he crossed the line (twice), let him/her live with it.

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Old Wed Feb 19, 2003, 11:10am
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Thumbs up Agreed

Do you stop calling fouls when a player is in foul trouble because of the potential consequences of fouling a player out? Do you ignore travelling because it occurred in the last 10 seconds with a team down 2 and needing a score, because of the consequences?

The rules should be enforced as intended. Now if you have been a little quick on the T, this type of rule may cause you to re-examine your quick trigger. BUt really you should do this anyway - it shoulod not take an extreme penalty to make you re-assess how you call Ts. But if you call Ts where warranted, then an additional penalty associated with the T should not change one bit how you call them.

A main reason for these rules is because players, fans, and coaches are out of control, and administrators are tired of dealing with it. Many of you complain about the howlers, and some of the extreme behavior that you are forced to put up with as refs. If this rule is not enforced because you stop calling Ts, the bad behavior will continue.
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