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canuckrefguy Fri Feb 07, 2003 04:01pm

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Originally posted by BigJoe
...if a team is pouring it on pressing another team in the fourth quarter with its starters, I am definitely calling every little touch foul I see. They brush a jersey its a foul. I love the line I use in this situation, "Coach, I can't tell you how to coach, but I can tell you how I'm going to officiate if you don't pull the press or your starters!"
Right on, Big Joe!

LarryS Fri Feb 07, 2003 04:23pm

Maybe I just don't get it. How can it be less humiliating to have your coach forfiet so you don't get drummed on the scoreboard? I can hear the kids at school "Only reason they didn't beat you sorry rear-end by 100 is the coach made you quit playing!" Yea, I can see how that will really build your confidence.

What is worse, showing everyone that no matter how bad the circumstances are you will keep trying and giving you best effort or being labeled a quitter and someone who has to be protected from "those mean people on the other team"?

Back when I played baseball, for two years we lost almost every game. The last game we got beat by 35 (and the game was called after the 3rd inning because of the time limit). We used that as motivation to work hard during the winter and get better. Lost only 2 games in the next three years. If you don't like the feeling when you get drummed...work hard to get better. You may not win, but at least you can hold your head up and take pride in your effort.

Jurassic Referee Fri Feb 07, 2003 04:25pm

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Originally posted by canuckrefguy
Quote:

Originally posted by BigJoe
...if a team is pouring it on pressing another team in the fourth quarter with its starters, I am definitely calling every little touch foul I see. They brush a jersey its a foul. I love the line I use in this situation, "Coach, I can't tell you how to coach, but I can tell you how I'm going to officiate if you don't pull the press or your starters!"
Right on, Big Joe!

Let's say that the coach now says that he's gonna put in a complaint about you two guys because officials are supposed to be unbiased and fair.The complaint goes into your assigner/evaluator/whoevertakescomplaints,with your remark quoted verbatim in it,along with witnesses that heard the remark.How does whoevertakescomplaints respond to this complaint now?

Lemme suggest,guys,that you call the game that way if you want to.Just don't announce it to anybody but your partner(s)! JMO.

canuckrefguy Fri Feb 07, 2003 04:43pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Let's say that the coach now says that he's gonna put in a complaint about you two guys because officials are supposed to be unbiased and fair. The complaint goes into your assigner/evaluator/whoevertakescomplaints, with your remark quoted verbatim in it, along with witnesses that heard the remark. How does whoevertakescomplaints respond to this complaint now?
I don't want to start going back and forth on this one, over very slight differences in philosophy and perceptions of sportsmanship, integrity, etc. We all have our opinions and are entitled to them.

Suffice it to say if it went this way, this coach is quite obviously even more of a jerk than I thought. I will take the heat, and I have full confidence that my assignor/evaluator/whoevertakescomplaints would back me up.

Sorry to bring up Jim Rome again, but I am out.

grcoach Fri Feb 07, 2003 06:31pm

I've had to discuss this topic for about 10 days now with everyone, and I just wanted to get some unbiased opinions on the situation. The president of the homeschool board is the athletic director of the program that I fofeited to, so I kind of had nowhere to get this kind of honest discussion. All of my players parents and the players themselves continue to support me in my decision, and they are the ones who were at the game (not to mention the ones I have to deal with on a daily basis). I have lost games by more than 37 and not had any problem with it, so being beat very badly was not the issue, it was the way they did it. All of my defense reasons have been listed by various users and all of administrations have also.
I really enjoyed the 100 point scam. That was nice!!!!!

BktBallRef Sat Feb 08, 2003 12:15am

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Originally posted by theboys
I realize this isn't a coaching site, and, I don't expect officials to take one side or the other, but, as a parent and coach, it galls me to see a team pour it on.
It galls us too, coach. I hate seeing it. If you're pressing in that type of situation, it better be clean because any contact prior to a turnover is going to be a foul. You don't have to tell anyone you're going to do that but most coaches get the message pretty quick. I know there are those that think that is wrong but I can live with that.


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