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Adam Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:06am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 769517)
Translation: Most of the veteran officials either do not wish to make the physical effort which is required to properly work the 2-man system or aren't capable of doing so, and thus elected to remove themselves from consideration for those assignments.
Or they simply chose to take a stand against the move backwards.

Adam Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:08am
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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 769524)
Not so much "hate" as "perceived fear."
The more veteran officials declined two-man assignments due to the perceived fear of having to sprint longer distances than in three-man.[/I]
You know this how?

Rich Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:08am
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 769638)
Or they simply chose to take a stand against the move backwards.
That wouldn't jibe with Nevada's worldview. All officials, after all, are lazy or out of shape if they'd rather stay home than work 2-person.

Freddy Thu Jun 30, 2011 02:35pm
Easy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 769639)
You know this how?
First hand, speaking with them directly. They all said they did not want to do that much running.

Freddy Thu Jun 30, 2011 02:41pm
Easy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 769639)
You know this how?
First hand, speaking with them directly. They all said they did not want to do that much running.

Adam Thu Jun 30, 2011 03:06pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 769671)
First hand, speaking with them directly. They all said they did not want to do that much running.
Well then, never mind.

26 Year Gap Thu Jun 30, 2011 03:48pm
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Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 769487)
Oregon is two whistle crew for all games (including State Championship) at the high school level.

We have always been two whistle and there is little, to no, chance of that ever changing.

As an ex-basketball official I am fine with two whistle crews.

T
Wait! Are you in LA?

Here is a related thread. http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...dget-cuts.html

BillyMac Thu Jun 30, 2011 04:35pm
So Goes Maine ...
 
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 769635)
Here in the northeast corner, all varsity post-season games are 3-man, and most regular-season games are 2-man, unless the home team requests a 3-man crew. Sub-varsity assignments are always 2-man.
Pretty much same here in the Constitution State, except that only state quarterfinals, semifinals, and finals, are three person games, earlier round games are all two person games. In fact, due to a lack of available officials in the afternoon, some freshman games, and some middle school games, are assigned as one person games.

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Nevadaref Thu Jun 30, 2011 06:00pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 769517)
Translation: Most of the veteran officials either do not wish to make the physical effort which is required to properly work the 2-man system or aren't capable of doing so, and thus elected to remove themselves from consideration for those assignments.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 769638)
Or they simply chose to take a stand against the move backwards.
My opinion is that what you write is the publicly stated and politically correct reason, but many of these folks are just hiding behind this and the real reason is that they are unhappy about the extra physical effort.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 769640)
That wouldn't jibe with Nevada's worldview. All officials, after all, are lazy or out of shape if they'd rather stay home than work 2-person.
See below. :p

Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 769671)
First hand, speaking with them directly. They all said they did not want to do that much running.

tref Fri Jul 01, 2011 08:11am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 769710)
My opinion is that what you write is the publicly stated and politically correct reason, but many of these folks are just hiding behind this and the real reason is that they are unhappy about the extra physical effort.

See below. :p
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 769673)
First hand, speaking with them directly. They all said they did not want to do that much running.
I had a funny feeling this would come back to haunt the defense.

Raymond Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:23am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 769710)
My opinion is that what you write is the publicly stated and politically correct reason, but many of these folks are just hiding behind this and the real reason is that they are unhappy about the extra physical effort.
...
And so what if they are? They are independent contractors, they set the parameters for which they choose to work. They are consequences and repercussions that come with making such decisions. If they are willing to live with them why should anybody else care?

Freddy Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:44am
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 769834)
And so what if they are? They are independent contractors, they set the parameters for which they choose to work. There consequences and repercussions that come with making such decisions. If they are willing to live with them why should anybody else care?
Correct. And I do not mind their decision cuz it means more games for me! I must be some sort of two-man scab or something. Might be a moot point anyway since word on the street is that they are going back to three for varsity this year.
Was at a high quality camp last week where they had us doing precise two man the entire first day on the premise that if guys couldn't be primary minded in that they would just be worse in three man. Another thread topic perhaps, but I appreciated the point.


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