goal tendind and interfernce with the ball

[ohad_d]

sit :

after a field goal attempt the ball hits the ring , the ball goas up , and on is way down , an offensive player cause the ring to vibrate in such way that the ball , in the judgement of the official , is prevenred from entering the basket..

do i need to count the basket?

the ateempt for the shot as finish while the ball hit the ring..isn't it?

by fiba rules 10x !!

[Adam]

Don't know about Fiba rules, but NFHS it's offensive interference. No basket. Defense gets ball.

snaqs

[ohad_d]

what about D player?

[Adam]

In NFHS, defensive basket interference is the same as goal tending, in that the penalty is awarding the points as if the ball had gone in. Ball then goes to non-scoring team as if the ball had simply gone through the basket.

Simultaneous interference? No basket. Alternating possession.
snaqs

[ohad_d]

the problem is that i dont think it was interference..bacause when rhe ball this the ring..the attempt for the shot is over...

[Adam]

If the ball is still in the 'cylinder' above the ring when the player causes it to vibrate, it's interference. If you thought the ball had a chance to go in, then the shot isn't over.
Think about it this way. Last second shot, released before the buzzer. Ball hits rim (after the buzzer goes off), bounces straight up, and then falls through the rim. Basket counts because the shot wasn't over. Same thing.

Wait a second. I need to think about this now.

snaqs

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by Snaqwells
If the ball is still in the 'cylinder' above the ring when the player causes it to vibrate, it's interference.

In the NF rules that you are refering too this is not correct. Interference is:
(1) Touching the ball basket (ring or net)when the ball is in the basket.
(2) Touching the ball when the ball is in the imaginary cylinder.

Touching the basket when the ball is in the cylinder is NOT interference. You may have a technical foul for slapping the board or hanging on the rim, but you can NOT count the basket.

[Adam]

Cameron, you're right. Rule 10-3-6-b is pretty clear. Technical foul no matter which team does it. Of course, if the ball goes in, I assume we count it either way.
Interesting.
Thanks,

snaqs

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by Snaqwells
Of course, if the ball goes in, I assume we count it either way.

snaqs

That is correct. The ball remains live and the basket will count if and only if it goes in.

[ohad_d]

bur remember.. i need it by fiba rules..

[Josh Ovens]

Originally posted by Snaqwells
Cameron, you're right. Rule 10-3-6-b is pretty clear. Technical foul no matter which team does it. Of course, if the ball goes in, I assume we count it either way.
Interesting.
Thanks,

snaqs

is it still a T if the Dfensive players slaps the backboard causing the ring to vibrate while within the cylinder, or is it just goaltending?

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by Josh Ovens

is it still a T if the Dfensive players slaps the backboard causing the ring to vibrate while within the cylinder, or is it just goaltending?

Josh, for NF/NCAA rules, it's only a T.

Goaltending can only be as a result of touching the ball. BI can only result from touching the ball or the rim/basket. Touching the backboard can never be BI/GT.

[Adam]

Josh,
NFHS, it's a T either way. Not basket interference or goaltending. Of course, if he makes ring vibrate when the ball is touching the ring, then it's interference.
Weird technicality, as far as I'm concerned.
Sorry, though, I have no idea what the FIBA rule is on this.

[ROMANO]

You DON'T need to count the basket.
FIBA SAY: IF deffensive or offensive player cause the ring to vibrate in such way that the ball , in the judgement of the official , is prevenred from entering the basket.
if this is a deffensive player-basket count!
if this is a offensive player -basket won't count!

[NICK]

OHAD, DID YOU WANT THE FIBA RULING? IF SO CHECK FIBA RULE
41.3.1 (VIOLATION BY OFFENSIVE PLAYER)