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CK Wed Jan 29, 2003 04:48pm

I was working a JV game the other night with a partner I have worked with many times in the past. Anyway at the 12 min mark he goes to check the book, I wait at the Division line until the pre game and go over. After the pre game I ask my partner what took so long on the books, he replied that he recommended they put the members numbers in numerical order and they liked the idea, thought nothing more of it as I understand this. At half time the Varsity coach comes over to us and looks at me and says "gentlemen I just wanted you to know that it is not a rule that the players #'s have to be in numerical order, just a recommendation, I just looked it up." My partner and I look at each other a little perplexed at what his mission was, and how did the information get from the table or coach to him when he was not even close at any time. We look back at him and I state we realize this, his reaction was "well I just wanted you to know this because I am not going to do this, I like to put my starters at the top", My reaction, fine Coach I recommend that you recommend that recommendation to the next crew, because we are not the crew working your game. In the end he laughed and went on with his business.
But you know, I am never ceased to be amazed every day by people......

CK

CYO Butch Wed Jan 29, 2003 04:53pm

It certainly was a strange situation. If the guy plays his starters for most of the minutes, having them listed at the top may well reduce the likelyhood of the scorers screwing up and recording things against the wrong numbers. But I sure as heck can't figure out what that has to do with you.

devdog69 Wed Jan 29, 2003 05:07pm

Has to do with him because his partner had them change all the numbers in the book which sounds messy to me. The coach didn't want to be forced into doing something different if he didn't have to. Maybe he made a bigger deal out of it than it should have been, but then again maybe your partner did too.

w_sohl Wed Jan 29, 2003 05:07pm

What do you care what order the player numbers are in the book? All you care about is that they have as many or more in the book than they do warming up. You or your partner(s) are not recording stats in the book so it truely makes no difference to you what order they are in, it isn't going to make your job any harder or easier. I just look to see that numbers are in the book, names don't matter, and that there are at least as many numbers as there are players warming up.

CK Wed Jan 29, 2003 05:20pm

That is the point, when asked by the table my partner responded by the book, that it was a recommendation and not a rule, they liked it and on we went.

CK Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:20pm

Just to add, this is NOT a slam on coaches, 95% of the ones I have encountered have been great. They too are human, as am I.
CK

whistleone Thu Jan 30, 2003 03:25pm

As an official anything we can do to make the job of the scorers and timers easier will help us in the long run. CK's partner did not require that they change the order of the numbers in the book. It was only a suggestion and they liked it and made the change. Personally, I don't care how they keep track as long as it's correct.

Don't get caught up in what happened with the varsity coach. CK and partner made light of the situation, everyone laughed and went on their merry way. Good job CK and company!

Josh Ovens Fri Jan 31, 2003 01:28am

i had a strange situation i was working with a young official( we are both 19, from the same h.s.,college) and he went over to the table to check and see if the arrow was working. and the guy at the table told him to stop clicking it, that he was gonna break it. sometimes there are just some people that are out there that are going to amaze us.

Mark Padgett Fri Jan 31, 2003 01:47am

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Originally posted by Josh Ovens
i had a strange situation i was working with a young official( we are both 19, from the same h.s.,college) and he went over to the table to check and see if the arrow was working. and the guy at the table told him to stop clicking it, that he was gonna break it. sometimes there are just some people that are out there that are going to amaze us.
Haven't you ever heard of "Broken Arrow"?

RecRef Fri Jan 31, 2003 10:07am

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Quote:

Originally posted by Josh Ovens
i had a strange situation i was working with a young official( we are both 19, from the same h.s.,college) and he went over to the table to check and see if the arrow was working. and the guy at the table told him to stop clicking it, that he was gonna break it. sometimes there are just some people that are out there that are going to amaze us.
Haven't you ever heard of "Broken Arrow"?

:rolleyes: That one is going to be lost on a 19 year old, and a 29 and maybe a 39 year old too.

Mark Dexter Fri Jan 31, 2003 05:55pm

The AP arrow was broken at a game I scored the other night. Is that to what you were referring? :p

Adam Fri Jan 31, 2003 06:18pm

Broken Arrow?!
 
Woah. Somebody lost a nuke?

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 31, 2003 06:50pm

Actually, "Broken Arrow" was an old Western sitcom that used to be on back in the '60s. It was about an impotent Iroquois.

RecRef Fri Jan 31, 2003 08:39pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Actually, "Broken Arrow" was an old Western sitcom that used to be on back in the '60s. It was about an impotent Iroquois.
It started in the mid 50s and it was about Cochise and the Apaches.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 31, 2003 09:10pm

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Originally posted by RecRef
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Actually, "Broken Arrow" was an old Western sitcom that used to be on back in the '60s. It was about an impotent Iroquois.
It started in the mid 50s and it was about Cochise and the Apaches.

Hmmm.I didn't know Cochise was impotent.

Dan_ref Fri Jan 31, 2003 09:43pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by RecRef
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Actually, "Broken Arrow" was an old Western sitcom that used to be on back in the '60s. It was about an impotent Iroquois.
It started in the mid 50s and it was about Cochise and the Apaches.

Hmmm.I didn't know Cochise was impotent.

Damn right he was important! He was the damn chief, wasn't he?!

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 31, 2003 10:15pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
[/B]
Damn right he was important! He was the damn chief, wasn't he?! [/B][/QUOTE]I hear that you're impotent in your own little way too,Chief! :eek:

Hawks Coach Fri Jan 31, 2003 10:16pm

Broken Arrow is a Buffalo Springfield song, and don't you forget it!!! Neil Young rules.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 31, 2003 10:21pm

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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
Broken Arrow is a Buffalo Springfield song, and don't you forget it!!! Neil Young rules.
Did you know that Neil Young was a Canadian?:eek:

CK Fri Jan 31, 2003 11:37pm

Hey Hawks Coach

Well I heard mister Young sing about her
Well, I heard ole Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A Southern man don't need him around anyhow

Dan_ref Sat Feb 01, 2003 12:16am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Damn right he was important! He was the damn chief, wasn't he?! [/B]
I hear that you're impotent in your own little way too,Chief! :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]

You're damn right I'm impo....hey! Wait a minute!

CK Sat Feb 01, 2003 12:24am

"Won't you give me three steps,
Gimme three steps mister,
Gimme three steps towards the door?
Gimme three steps
Gimme three steps mister,
And you'll never see me no more."

Better known as the exit after a game!


[Edited by CK on Jan 31st, 2003 at 11:27 PM]

Hawks Coach Sat Feb 01, 2003 02:38pm

An exit song. . .
 
Or the NBA travel rule!

dhodges007 Sat Feb 01, 2003 09:20pm

Re: An exit song. . .
 
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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
Or the NBA travel rule!
Funny :D

williebfree Sat Feb 01, 2003 10:41pm

Re: An exit song. . .
 
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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
Or the NBA travel rule!
NO LIE!.... That was darn near the same thoughts that bounced in my head when I read those lyrics.

CK Sat Feb 01, 2003 11:25pm

NBA Traveling; is that when the Mavs travel to Denver to play the Nuggets???

Josh Ovens Sun Feb 02, 2003 02:19am

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Quote:

Originally posted by Josh Ovens
i had a strange situation i was working with a young official( we are both 19, from the same h.s.,college) and he went over to the table to check and see if the arrow was working. and the guy at the table told him to stop clicking it, that he was gonna break it. sometimes there are just some people that are out there that are going to amaze us.
Haven't you ever heard of "Broken Arrow"?

yea, but the thing was it was working, the guy was just an *******.

CK Sun Feb 02, 2003 11:06pm

Josh, "Think About It", PLEASE!

CK

Josh Ovens Mon Feb 03, 2003 12:13am

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Originally posted by CK
Josh, "Think About It", PLEASE!

CK

whatever CK

A Pennsylvania Coach Mon Feb 03, 2003 08:21am

Broken Arrow is a movie from about 8 years ago with Travolta and Christian Slater about a missing nuclear missile.

Jurassic Referee Mon Feb 03, 2003 08:56am

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Originally posted by A Pennsylvania Coach
Broken Arrow is a movie from about 8 years ago with Travolta and Christian Slater about a missing nuclear missile.
John Travolta is impotent? Wow!

DownTownTonyBrown Mon Feb 03, 2003 05:34pm

I thought it was Neil Young. Too many drugs.


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