Get a load of this clown!

http://newshound.de.siu.edu/Sports20...toryReader$666

This guy's no fan. He's a college freshman, for goshsakes. The main thing I objected to in this article was his statement that officiating is "crooked". If I was one of the refs from that game, my next call would be to my attorney.

BTW - I sent this giblet-head an email (there's a link on the story page) and told him he was an a$$hole - except without the dollar signs.

I just got a reply email from this clown and he claims the article is just a satire and not to be taken seriously.

Sounds like CYA to me.

BTW - "CYA" is not the same as "CYO".

I told him the Weekly World News would hire him
 

...as well as told him he didn't know what the hell he was speaking of...

here's his reply:

The column was a satire. It was not to be taken so seriously.
But working at the weeklyworldnews would probably pay better in the
future.

Best wishes,
Zack Creglow

I laughed my butt off...

The comments were outrageous to the extreme, the column likely the most poorly written one I've read in years, but it likely served its purpose: to inflame, incite, and for some college hack to get his jollies.

I work in the journalism business, and my take is: consider the source and leave it in the recycle bin where it belongs.

Wonder how many officials e-mailed him a shot of venom?

I HATE this line of critique
 

Forget the writer - the coach is pathetic for leaning on the foul count. Think what you will of Esherick, at least he said what it was that bothered him - his player taking too much contact in the post, and because he is big, refs letting the contact go. Maybe yes, maybe no, but at least the criticism is pointed toward a specific issue.

SIU coach isn't saying where the fouls were that they didn't get, just demonstrating that he can count (we should congatulate his elementary school teacher). If a team is pressuring, they may increase the likelihood of a foul with the full court pressure. But if they are playing good defense, then they may be increasing their foul count from 3 to 6 by the 18 minute mark.

Foul counts are a ridiculous stat. We actually kicked a team's butt for a half and drew no fouls because they were never in position to foul. We were fouling because of poor pressure defense (at times - got lots of steals too). They ended up in the bonus and got back in the game, and some of my parents complained about the foul disparity. But if you watched the game, the fouls were right.

Coach,I'm not sure that we really do know where the SIU coach is coming from on this one-to give him the benefit of the doubt.You're dealing with a typical immature,smartass freshman college writer.We don't really know what he asked the coach,what additional comments that he may have left out of his story because they didn't fit his "satire",whether the coach really did put any of the blame his players,etc.,etc. It's not like we're dealing with Woodward and Bernstein here.

I've seen a lot of similar stories over the years from college papers.I just consider the source and don't take 'em seriously at all.

Btw,all the points that you made were good. I know that there are a lotta coaches out there like you that do have common sense, but I wish that a few more would follow your example.

Freshman
 

Ok guy's get off this guys butt, He made his point and it worked.The ego's in this room are as big as the moon, Iam an outsider looking in and he made his point and you guys fell for it "hook line and sinker"

Fell for it hook line and sinker.

What he published (even if it were satirical) was malicious and irresponsible.

If replace the word ref or referee with the word that relate to a minority, religious, political, or lifestyle group and you would see havoc... why is it different for a referee?

I for one hope the officials know of a good slander lawyer..

If the article is indeed satire, then fine.
The problem I have is with his advocating violence against an official. And his statement "payback is nearing" is just as frightening. He may not ever do anything, but there are plenty of misguided people that will take an article such as that and use if for justification.
Too bad he can't get suspended for seven games,work days etc.,(ala Rasheed Wallace) without pay. (although being a college freshman, he probably wouldn't mind)
And by the way, by wife and kids only hate me SOMETIMES!:D
Drake

You mean libel. Slander is spoken, libel is written. What most concerned me was not his misguided, juvenile opinions - he's entitled to those just as anyone else is - but his implication that officiating is "crooked".

BTW - I forwarded his link to NASO and they are discussing it.

I meant libel... sorry... I knew that, in a hurry and not thinking... I know sounds like my last game with Drake...:) That's why he never works with me anymore. It is defamation none the less! ( Notice to the daily egyption I did no libel Drake just myself)

cool
 

refs are so cool.

And they started handing out journalism degrees after the four hour whistle-blow training because your opinions on his writing are so valid. Satire, fools. If someone is genuinely concerned for their safety after reading that article i'll hold your hand when you leave the game. If Eminem can say "F- you miss cheney, F- you Tipper Gore" and threaten to kill his wife on records, I don't think Creglow has a problem with the law. And if you dissaprove of his satire, don't attack his intelligence. I doubt any of you brainiacs could compete.

Find something better to talk about,
much love,
colin

Troll!

Ignore.

Re: cool
 

Actually Colin, most people with "journalism degrees" got them from McDonalds

"Geeze, sorry, we're all out of the Ronald McDonald keychains but we do have these nice journalism degrees!"

"Awwwwwww mom! What am I gonna do with a journalism degree? I don't wanna write ad copy for the Pennysaver! I want the keychain!!!"

"You'll take it and thank the nice lady!"

Folks, this isn't good satire - it's regular terrible college "writing." You learn to ignore it after a few issues of the campus paper.

Re: Re: cool
 

I don't want to disagree, Dan, but I think you got that backwards.

The person with the Science Degree asks, "Why does it work?"

The person with the Engineering Degree asks, "How does it work?"

The person with the Accounting Degree asks, "How much does it cost?"

The person with the Journalism Degree asks, "Would you like fries with that?"

And,
 

And the Guy with the law degree says, "How can I take advantage of this situation, sue someone without cause, and get a big retainer?"

Since I have a "Masters" in Journalism I recognize how worthless that field is . . . I also have a "Masters" in Linguistics, now there is a useful degree.

Re: Re: Re: cool
 

:)

Re: And,
 

Isn't linguistics still illegal in Mississippi,even between consenting adults?

Re: Misguided Fan
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Quote:

Isn't linguistics still illegal in Mississippi,even between consenting adults?

LMAO!!!!!!!!

JR,
 

Two good lines:

Carly Simon once had an album titled "Cunning Stunts" . . . I think you can see where that one went,

And of course in one of the latest James Bond movies a line was, "James, you're such a cunning linguist".

Oh well, back to work.

Response
 

I sent an e-mail to this guy giving him my 2 cents.....which along with 98 other cents buys you a cup of coffee.

This was his response.....


Sir,
I apologize for the satire. The statement payback is coming refered to Creighton. Sorry for the mixup.
I am sincerely sorry. We had a letter to editor in yesterday's paper about it. It was just to be taken as an off-the-wall satire.

Best wishes,
Zack Creglow

So...I guess we can turn off the flame throwers now. He's a kid....he learned....lets move on.

and another reply
 

He also sent me this....

Sir,

I feel like we are playing email tag since I just sent that 5 minutes
ago. I guess we are both on our lunch break. Ever since that column,
honestly, I have been in a depressed state. I have been nauseated
and can hardly go through my daily life.
When the SIU-Creighton game nears, I plan to run something
positive about officials. Truth be told, my uncle and cousin are
officials. I don't believe those things I wrote. When I wrote crooked, I
meant biased.

But I know officials are people. I understand that. I just basically want
this heat to end. It was written over a week ago in a college paper.
I understand everyone is pissed(officials) but I was just trying to
humor a college campus. That isn't easy. I should have taken a
higher road when I did it. But I am 19 and will make mistakes along
my journey. I know that. Actually, I am damned lucky to be able to
work at this good of a college newspaper. It was a rated the top
college newspaper.

I am just a freshman and haven't had a class yet. I work my *** off
though. My dad taught me that, he owns a concrete construction
company and told me to never to slack.
So last year in high school, I worked at a newspaper, so that I can
get on here. I got lucky. I come from a great family who is supportive.

I have a very dry humor. Those who know and read me before,
understand that when they saw my column. And I am very sarcastic,
so if someone didn't know me or read me, they'd think I am cocky
little pissant.

Hope you can convey this to others,
Best wishes,
Zack Creglow

Satire Huh?

So Zack used wit in the form of outright derision to expose our wickedness or folly? Someone please enlighten me!

He crossed the line when he satirically called for the physical beating of a referee. I agree with Larks the kid probably learned a great deal more than he's bargained for when he sat down to write the article. I never wrote him so will hold back my flame thrower.

Along those same lines, I remember reading some state is considering statutes treating attacks on referees the same as attacks on police officers. I believe I saw this in the Sunday paper last weekend. Anyone know about this?

The kid made some poor word choices trying to look big in the school paper. We made him realize it and probably benifited ourselves by enlightening this kid on how hard we work to be the best we can be. Bottom line. He badmouthed "us" we called him on it, he apologized and hopefully learned, lets move on. If only everyone who looks at officials in a negative light could come to realize this.

I remember Ga. Tech winning the National Championship (football) a few years back. The coaches poll gave the trophy to Ga Tech, while the sports writers went with Colorado.
The Tech fans said that if the sports writers who voted for the Buffs were such great writers, they would all be novelists!
I'd say this gut has a short career ahead of him!

Re: Re: And,
 

Easy there Big Boy! Having been reared in Mississippi (you rear children, raise cattle), I can tell you that we don't eat those foreign meals -- except spagetti. :D

Easy there Big Boy! Having been reared in Mississippi,I can tell you that we don't eat those foreign meals -- except spagetti. :D [/B][/QUOTE]Reared in Mississipi,eh? Never had that happen.Got blind-sided in Georgia once,though!:D

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Jan 31st, 2003 at 08:36 PM]

Never,ever do that in Mississippi!! JMHO.

Knew better than to post that and did it anyway. Oh well, live and learn.