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Chuck,
Your quip actually does have some merit because no one has yet mentioned that within the grouping of these three fouls we have a false multiple foul, since the first two fouls were both charged to Team B.

No one's mentioned it because it's the wrong answer - multiple fouls involve personal fouls, not technical fouls. (Otherwise the penalty for two T's on a team could be equal to the penalty for one T.)

But NevadaRef is correct. When B1 committed his techincal foul, that created a false multiple foul, and when A1 committed his techncial foul, that created the false double foul. This is true for both NFHS and NCAA Men's/Women's rules.

None of which means a hoot, since you simply enforce them in the order in which they occurred.

Maybe this will clear it up?
 

Did the same official give both Technical Fouls?

Because if they did, you might have a simaltaneous Technical if the official ruled that both happen at the same time.

Then my next question is, why was Team A chirping? Were they talking to the official or a player on Team B?

But without these questions being answered, it looks to me on the surface that we have a 1 & 1 shot with the lane cleared (with team A). Then we have Team A shooting the Technical Foul shots with the lane cleared of course. Finally we would have Team B shooting their T Foul shots and Team B would get the ball at the division line.

Peace

Mark,
Take a look at 4-19-10+11. In 10 it says that a multiple foul situation does have to be personal fouls, but 11 defines a FALSE multiple foul situation as just two or more fouls. To me that means they can be both personal, both technical, or a mixture of the two.

And Tony, you are right that it doesn't matter for purposes of administering the game, but for an academic rules discussion or a written test it does.

I am agreeing with you. Overall this situation is a false double foul. The first two fouls of the situation create a false multiple foul, and the third foul of the situation create a false double foul overall.

Re: Maybe this will clear it up?
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JRutledge
[B]Did the same official give both Technical Fouls?

2 different officials---


Then my next question is, why was Team A chirping? Were they talking to the official or a player on Team B?

They were talking to the official, but opposing player was near by.

a 13 minute huddle to make a decision on this?!

I think that might be the "ugly" part of this.

Of course, apparently it took the refs 17 minutes to review a last second shot in an NBA game Fri/Sat night.

Sorry for the confusion. I should have specified that I was directing that post to Mark DEXTER, not you MTD. Thanks for your points though. I agree with what you have written.