VB game last night. Tied with less 15 seconds to go. V1 drives lanes and charges into H1. Pretty easy PC call. As I am going to report foul, V2 comes up to me, gets fairly close into my face (doesn't touch me) and says "Bulls**t" to me. Pretty loud in the gym but I'm almost positive on what was said to me. So I T'd him up. Needless to say, Home team won. After game, vistor's head coach comes up and notes that the player was just asking what the call was. I told him that if I had heard it wrong, I apologize, but part of the reason the T was given was because of his aggressive nature towards me when I was trying to report foul.
I wondering if I should handled this differently due to nature of game? I know players verbally abusing officials should not be tolerated but what about physically aggression? Let me know what you think. Thanks |
Sounds to me like you nailed it. The coach should reserve his anger for the player, and I'm betting the player got it after the coach settled down and reviewed the situation!
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That is why a team has a coach, to diplomatically question calls. If a player says BS to me he is calling me a liar. WHACK. IMO I wouldn't admit that you might not have heard the kid right. Tell the coach he swore at you and that is that.
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This is like saying that the fans pay their money, so they should be able to ride the officials and have their say. Chuck |
Chuck I agree totally about the coach comment but what can really be done about fans unless they become profane or violent it seems to me they do get to pay their money and get to say what they want.
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Good point, Jeff. I was actually thinking of abuse, more than just "having their say". If a fan yells out "You suck!" or curses, and you know who it was, I wouldn't have a problem asking security, a police officer, the AD, or the home coach to remove the spectator. That's what I was trying to say. Paying your $2 doesn't entitle you to abuse officials or taunt players.
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Please let me get this perfectly clear:
You would have security eject a fan if you could identify them and they had said "You Suck!" in regards to your performance? Is this a correct statement? |
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Yes, that fan needs to go home and think about his life and priorities. :) Ok, it's not my job to make anybody think about his/her life; but at the very least, the families around the fan should not be forced to listen to that. So, yes, I'd have no problem tossing him/her, especially if cursing is involved. Chuck |
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Thank you for the clarification. Having worked both baseball and basketball at many levels I have not seem "many" fans ejected (those that actually did not come on the field or the court). Many years ago I was at a site waiting to work the second game of a Christmas Double Header. After a few very emotional calls against one of the teams (all made by one specific official) there was a free throw situation where the "culprit" was lead standing under the basket during a multiple throw. A small, older man moves out of the crowd and walks right down the end line . . . he approaches very near the "offending" official before anyone on the court sees him. He reaches out quickly and takes the officials glasses right from his face. He calmly takes out a hankerchief and cleans the glasses and then hands them back to the official. While the crowd gave the old man a standing ovavtion security ejected him from the arena. Some times the true stories are the funniest. Tee |
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I don't think he meant to say that the reason a team has a coach is to provide a person to question calls. What I believe he was saying is that, if a call is to be questioned, it should be by the head coach and in a diplomatic manner. I certainly feel I have that right, but that I should exercise it with care and with diplomacy. And if I show you respect and courtesy, I expect the same from you. |
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I don't know - I might keep this guy in the gym - seems to be having fun with the game and enjoying it! |
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