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Girls tourney championship game tonight, last year's 1A State runnerup vs. a pretty good 3A team.
I'm center, tableside, in front of 3A bench. Ball goes into 6'4" center in the low post and the lead rotates to my side. As he does, Amazon turns, lowers her shoulder, deosn't displace defender, shoots and gets fouled. 3A howler monkey and asst. howler jump up, go ape$hit, wanting a PC foul. I quickly point out to the asst. that he needs to maintain his composure, that we will allow the head howler some latutude but that he must remain seated and quiet. So, he got the benefit of a warning that I don't usually give to an asst. howler. Then head howler and I discuss the merits of then play. Three trips down the floor later, I'm still at trail, tableside and the R calls a foul on a 3A player. Asst. howler loudly claps his hands together and yells, "That's terrible! Call it both ways!" He's mine. WHACK! Lead reports, I report, lead is the most veteran official among and stays tableside trail, to quiet down head howler, while I go to center. Lead bounces ball to shooter when I hear "TWEET! WHACK!"  We had zero problems, comments, or issues after that.  I guess these guys, who I had never seen before, thought they could intimidate us into calling the game their way. What did head howler say? My partner, who previously has called 3 technicals on coaches in the 5 years I've worked with him, asks the howler to sit down since he now has an indirect. His reply? "I'll think about it!!"  Get'em early and you'll have a better game! 
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 12:19am
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To paraphrase Mayor Daley - "T 'em early and often".
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 02:28am
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Point well taken. "T em early" and appropriately. Had 2A game the other evening. 2nd time they had met this season (someone elses game). Visiting team had won at first meeting by 19. At home this time Home team coach wants to be the howler.... close game but hoem team coach wants more calls in his favor.... surprise.
T-ed him early in the 3rd. He acted like now that I had T-ed him that all restrictions were off and he could chase me around the court.... He wanted to talk with me... He refused to sit down. I ignored the problem for awhile as he stayed on the sideline.... coaching.... WRONG ANSWER should have booted him. He acted appropriately during the 4th quarter but he shouldn't have been there. Home team won by 7. Probaly wouldn't have happened had the coach not been there. A "T" is punishment for actions previous to its issuance. Once a T is given does not mean the coach now has lattitude to drop all barriers and come discuss the game in the middle of the floor. The coach does NOT owe you some tongue lashing now. This is a penalty for actions he already made. Any obnoxious talk beyond what can be readily ignored is worthy of a 2nd T and ejection. I hosed it up. After the game, my partner and I stopped at a gas station for a quick drink. In comes the visiting (losing) team, Coaches came right up to use and said we did a very good job. I asked what we should do with a coach that just wouldn't calm down and abide with the rules he should be complying with...? "Just eject him. get him out of there." I responded that he was right. The home team coach was deserving of ejection. We often worry about the severity of our penalties (State rules require a 2nd game of disqualification). The opposing (well mannered) coaches worry about the lack of us imposing appropriate penalties. The coach was right. I should have ejected him. After our discussion, the coach put us in front of all his players lined up at the cash register and then bought our drinks. It was a very nice thank-you. If they refuse to act professionally, T 'em early and often.
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 12:11pm
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Sometimes, it's just obvious that things are not going to get any better until something is done.
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Sun Dec 29, 2002, 04:06pm
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College officials probably wouldn't be at the 7-11 picking up a coke after the game either. I'd be willing to bet college coaches dont stop at 7-11s other than gas only. I'm just taking a stab in the dark on that one though. I'm still in rec ball and carry on many discussions with coaches the next morning in church. HAHA
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Mon Dec 30, 2002, 07:43am
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"I have to take that from Batman, but I'm not taking it from Robin. Sit down please." Mregor
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Mon Dec 30, 2002, 09:51am
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Mon Dec 30, 2002, 09:59am
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Mon Dec 30, 2002, 10:28am
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JR
To the Looney tunes bin for you!
"Th..th.. tha...that's all folks!
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Mon Dec 30, 2002, 11:37am
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Mon Dec 30, 2002, 06:31pm
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Jurrasic: The comment someone made earlier is correct -- You have way too much free time. You should get a hobby, like officiating.
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Mon Dec 30, 2002, 11:03pm
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