mechanics for Timeout(Sub's only)

Teddly · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 24, 2002, 02:55pm

Coach request timeout to get his subs in the game only.
What mechanics is used by the official?
Is there a horn? When?
At what time can the other coach also bring in subs during this timeout?
Using NCAA mech. for above. thanks!

Marty Rogers · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 24, 2002, 06:55pm

These are NFHS procedures. Someone can let us know if NCAA is different:

You treat this like any other time out regardless of the coach's intention. Report the TO to the table, they start the 60 sec clock (or 30 sec clock). All subs must be reported before the buzzer at the first horn (45 secs or 20 secs). Players must remain standing if it is a 20 sec TO.

If either coach wants to take the entire TO, he may. If one team is ready early, it must wait for the other team who is taking the entire TO. If both teams are ready early, you may disregard the time left, and resume play.

JRutledge · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 24, 2002, 07:34pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Marty Rogers
These are NFHS procedures. Someone can let us know if NCAA is different:

You treat this like any other time out regardless of the coach's intention. Report the TO to the table, they start the 60 sec clock (or 30 sec clock). All subs must be reported before the buzzer at the first horn (45 secs or 20 secs). Players must remain standing if it is a 20 sec TO.

If either coach wants to take the entire TO, he may. If one team is ready early, it must wait for the other team who is taking the entire TO. If both teams are ready early, you may disregard the time left, and resume play.

Marty, he is asking about a college rule and mechanic. The NCAA put in last year a rule to allow a timeout just for a substitution only. The coaches are suppose to give a signal to indicate that this is the kind of timeout they are requesting. They are used as 30 second timeouts, and if they do not have them, they can use up a full to accomplish the same thing.

The mechanic for Women is the 30 second timeout signal, with a "travel-like" signal above the head with your index fingers.

The mechanic for the Men's side, is a 30 second signal with a travel signal.

These timeout are to only be used for substituations. They are not timed, but the substitutes are suppose to come in immediately and then we start the game as if there was a dead ball.

Peace

Marty Rogers · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 24, 2002, 09:47pm

Quote:

Originally posted by JRutledge

Quote:

Originally posted by Marty Rogers

Marty, he is asking about a college rule and mechanic. The NCAA put in last year a rule to allow a timeout just for a substitution only.
These timeout are to only be used for substituations. They are not timed, but the substitutes are suppose to come in immediately and then we start the game as if there was a dead ball.

JRutledge: Thanks for the clarification. I knew he was asking about NCAA, but decided to respond anyways. Now I (we) know the NFHS and the college rules in this regard.
Thanks.

Teddly · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 24, 2002, 10:18pm

Thanks guys, doesn't hurt to know both! Hey Rut, we don't have a horn right?

[Edited by Teddly on Dec 24th, 2002 at 09:21 PM]

Mark Dexter · #6 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 25, 2002, 12:12am

Just wanting to check this with someone who has a 2002-2003 NCAA rulebook:

A is granted a non-media timeout. Before the warning horn, team A breaks its huddle and indicates that it is ready to start play. The timer should immediately sound the warning horn and sound another horn 15 seconds later to indicate the resumption of play. Correct?

Also, how often (if at all) have you seen this done?

Teddly · #7 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 25, 2002, 01:30am

Mark, under NCAA, this is correct.
I see this happen at the high school level all the time. The high schools [girls & boys] here use NCAA men's rules for all high school ball. At the college level, maybe they use their time outs and never break the huddles early.

Go to this site for the info on rules: http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/20...ball_rules.pdf

[Edited by Teddly on Dec 25th, 2002 at 12:46 AM]

ChuckElias · #8 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 25, 2002, 02:19pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
A is granted a non-media timeout. Before the warning horn, team A breaks its huddle and indicates that it is ready to start play. The timer should immediately sound the warning horn and sound another horn 15 seconds later to indicate the resumption of play. Correct?

Also, how often (if at all) have you seen this done?

As far as I know, Mark, that is the correct procedure. It happens quite often in my games. Not all the time, obviously, but often. Maybe it was just these particular coaches' habits, but I'd guess that 5 out of the 6 75-second TOs in my juco game on Saturday were shortened by the requesting team being ready early.

Chuck