all part of my job?

[williebfree]

Obviously, Mr. Visiting Principal DOES NOT GET IT. How sad for those kids to be exposed to such an incompetent "leader".

FYI:
In Wisconsin, this game would not have been played. TWO officials must be on the court, failure to adhere to this policy will make you liable if any harm would occur. Needless to say, not worth the risk... "to let the kids play"

[SmokeEater]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Last week, the same idiot-led school was visiting the same local school. For some reason, no officials showed up. A brief survey of the audience found only one solution. Mr. visiting principal called the games, by himself.

No certified Officials = no Game

If this was planned by the officials to teach a lesson to the school administrator, does it really punish the "idiot" or the kids who want to play ball?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

No certified Officials = no Game

If this was planned by the officials to teach a lesson to the school administrator, does it really punish the "idiot" or the kids who want to play ball?

This is jr. high, which around here is unregulated. A school may have anyone they choose to call the games. The school in question has a different guy in charge of assigning games, instead of the association used by everyone else.
I'm told, third hand, that there was a good explanation for having no officials.
The guy forgot.

[Andy]

My question is....

Almost four years later....and this idiot is still the principal?????

Was his behavior from the OP reported? Did anything come of it? Or has this clown "turned over a new leaf?"

Just curious.......

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Andy

My question is....

Almost four years later....and this idiot is still the principal?????

Was his behavior from the OP reported?Did anything come of it?

I inquired locally and was politely told that nothing would happen so I'd be better off to forget about it. I don't know how accurate this is but was told that the only reason he had the job was because nobody else wanted it.

Or has this clown "turned over a new leaf?"

Nope, same guy. Check out the thread called, "some things are more important than money." That's him.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

No certified Officials = no Game

If this was planned by the officials to teach a lesson to the school administrator, does it really punish the "idiot" or the kids who want to play ball?

It is never our job to take any kind of abuse for the effort to "play the game for the kids." I think any official has other obligations than continuing a game when an administrator is behaving is such an unprofessional manner. If the administrator wants the game to continue, then he or she needs to behave in a way that would allow the game to continue. At least you will draw attention to the behavior of the administrator and they will have to answer why they behaved in such a way that would cancel a game.

Peace

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This week there was a tournament at the idiot school and my son's team was playing. Last night, we arrived, I showed my official's card and my wife and I walked in, but a few minutes later the doorkeeper came in and said sorry but Mr. (idiot) says we don't accept these cards. Well today a friend of mine went in, presented his card and was welcomed.

I hate to be the skunk at the picnic, but if your son is playing in a tournament, why do you think you should get in for free? You are there as a parent, not an official. I presume all the other players' parents had to pay.

[deecee]

I am that principal and who do you think you are slandering my good name all across this virtaul smorgasboard of hate?

I will make sure you never work a 7th/8th grade game ever again. I will also make sure to give you dirty looks should I see you in public. I am waiting for the day my 8th grade team wins the state championship and I can let everyone know what a bad official you are.

YOUR MOTHER IS A HAMSTER AND YOUR FATHER STINKS OF ELDERBERRY!!!

Of course you are just another ref -- you all the same -- elderberry eating hamsters.

Happy Halloweenie btw...

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by deecee

YOUR MOTHER IS A HAMSTER AND YOUR FATHER STINKS OF ELDERBERRY!!!

Now go away or I shall taunt you a second a-time!

[Ref Daddy]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

You've already talked to the assignor and that's good. If it were me, I would tell the assignor that I want every single game this team plays for the rest of the season. I want to show up and let the principal know that I'm in charge here and he doesn't get to intimidate me. Now that's just me, but I wouldn't let this -- ahem -- gentleman tell anybody where I can and can't work. If his team gets back on the bus and goes home, so much the better.

chuck

Outstanding idea!

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

I hate to be the skunk at the picnic, but if your son is playing in a tournament, why do you think you should get in for free? You are there as a parent, not an official. I presume all the other players' parents had to pay.

Around here, it is a perk of being an official. If you have an official's card, you get in free, no matter who is playing. Jr. highs are not obligated to accept these cards, but every one I have ever attended does honor them.
The point here is that my card was refused, while another guy's identical card was accepted. I am told that this qualifies as discrimination, which goes past the point of showing ones a**, and reaches the point of being against the law.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by deecee

I am that principal and who do you think you are slandering my good name all across this virtaul smorgasboard of hate?

I will make sure you never work a 7th/8th grade game ever again. I will also make sure to give you dirty looks should I see you in public. I am waiting for the day my 8th grade team wins the state championship and I can let everyone know what a bad official you are.

YOUR MOTHER IS A HAMSTER AND YOUR FATHER STINKS OF ELDERBERRY!!!

Of course you are just another ref -- you all the same -- elderberry eating hamsters.

Happy Halloweenie btw...

If you had ever met this guy, you would not claim to be him, even in jest, and, being a principal, he probably knows how to spell virtual. Until I got to the Happy Halloweenie part, this post made the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Around here, it is a perk of being an official. If you have an official's card, you get in free, no matter who is playing. Jr. highs are not obligated to accept these cards, but every one I have ever attended does honor them.
The point here is that my card was refused, while another guy's identical card was accepted. I am told that this qualifies as discrimination, which goes past the point of showing ones a**, and reaches the point of being against the law.

Big jump there to call it discrimination. You did say yours was accepted then they came to find you to say it wasn't. Did the very same person let the other official in? Was it before or after you were informed that you had to pay? If after, Was it possible that someone else came along and re-corrected them? If before, did they try to find the other person but were unsuccessful? Was the other person a friend of the ticket taker? The questions could go on.

Perhaps it was discrimination but I'd be careful about throwing around those accusations simply because someone else got in free and you didn't. There could be 100's reasons that it occured (and, yes, one of them actually is discrimination).

[johnnyrao]

This probably will not be popular but I would have no desire to ever work a game with this team again. I have never had this situation where a person (coach, player, admin, parent) has attacked me personally so I am speaking off of my thoughts, not personal experience. If this happened to me I think I would gladly excuse myself from working any of their games again. I would call my assignor and association president and tell them I have no desire to work this school again. I know if I had to continue to work this team's games I would come home frustrated over one person who, from reading the posts, I do not think I can do anything about. Writing letters is great and I would do all those things, but from what just another ref says, it probably will not aftect this principal. Unfortunately, some people will not learn. So maybe it is time to stay away from him and continue to enjoy this wonderful game with other groups of people. I referee because, something my wife cannot figure out, I love to referee. If something makes me start to not love it I need to adjust fire or think abour giving it up. Maybe this is one of those times that adjusting fire is appropriate. Just a thought.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Big jump there to call it discrimination. You did say yours was accepted then they came to find you to say it wasn't. Did the very same person let the other official in? Was it before or after you were informed that you had to pay? If after, Was it possible that someone else came along and re-corrected them? If before, did they try to find the other person but were unsuccessful? Was the other person a friend of the ticket taker? The questions could go on.

Perhaps it was discrimination but I'd be careful about throwing around those accusations simply because someone else got in free and you didn't. There could be 100's reasons that it occured (and, yes, one of them actually is discrimination).

I don't know what defines discrimination, I was told this by someone else.
What happened is, the first day I presented my card and was allowed in.
But the principal saw me come in and sent the doorkeeper to get the money:
"Mr. principal says we don't honor these cards." This is his right. But the next day a friend went to the tournament, presented his card, and was allowed in. Principal was standing there, and announced, "Yeah, this card is okay, but there's another guy who will probably be here later," called my by name, "don't accept his card." Sounds kinda discriminatory to me, but I am not an attorney, and have not stayed at Holiday Inn Express recently. By the way, the people there know their principal by now, so the guy let me in with my card anyway.