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BillyMac Thu Apr 07, 2011 07:30pm

Ten Second Free Throw Violation In NBA ...
 
Howard picks up 18th tech after free-throw violation | NBA.com

APG Thu Apr 07, 2011 07:42pm

He picked up the same violation the night before.

Adam Thu Apr 07, 2011 07:55pm

Is he the only guy in the NBA getting called for this?

APG Thu Apr 07, 2011 08:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 747860)
Is he the only guy in the NBA getting called for this?

He's the only one that's been called for the violation...and for good reason. He's the only one in the NBA who's even close to approaching 10 seconds...not since Karl Malone have I seen anyone take so long.

grunewar Thu Apr 07, 2011 08:25pm

Classic......
 
Many of us here have admitted to never having called this violation, and an NBEer gets its twice in a week?

Bwahahaha!

APG Thu Apr 07, 2011 08:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 747862)
Many of us here have admitted to never having called this violation, and an NBEer gets its twice in a week?

Bwahahaha!

It's the third time Dwight has been called for it. His first violation came on a Christmas day game. It's not as if the call came as a surprise to Dwight as he and the Orlando Magic have been warned from the League previously that he was taking too long.

Adam Thu Apr 07, 2011 08:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 747864)
It's the third time Dwight has been called for it. His first violation came on a Christmas day game. It's not as if the call came as a surprise to Dwight as he and the Orlando Magic have been warned from the League previously that he was taking too long.

Two games in a row ought to serve as a warning for the playoffs. We'll see.

VaTerp Thu Apr 07, 2011 09:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 747861)
He's the only one that's been called for the violation...and for good reason. He's the only one in the NBA who's even close to approaching 10 seconds...not since Karl Malone have I seen anyone take so long.

Yep.

On the one on Christmas Day, I think it was like 15 seconds and he didnt even look like he was thinking about starting his shooting motion.

I don't know how long he took with the last 2 violations but for him to still be getting called for this and toss the ball for an easy T afterwards shows his immaturity. It will be interesting to see if this is a message before the playoffs and if he gets that message.

bainsey Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:12am

Forget the violation for a bit.

Anyone here ever have a T for throwing the ball away like Howard did?

JRutledge Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:22am

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 747862)
Many of us here have admitted to never having called this violation, and an NBEer gets its twice in a week?

Bwahahaha!

Most of us I am sure never get close to having to ever call this. I have only been involved in a game once where this was even an issue and my partner called it appropriately. Then every time I see him I give him crap about it (we still find it funny). But that does not mean that he was wrong, just something we never see regularly or even have to fight with ourselves to make this call.

Peace

JRutledge Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 748019)
Forget the violation for a bit.

Anyone here ever have a T for throwing the ball away like Howard did?

Was the T for throwing the ball or for something he said? I tend to not just take the media's word for anything in these matters.

Peace

JugglingReferee Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 748019)
Forget the violation for a bit.

Anyone here ever have a T for throwing the ball away like Howard did?

I've had this just once in my career. It's was in the local men's league and I rang him up before the ball made it's second bounce.

APG Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 748019)
Forget the violation for a bit.

Anyone here ever have a T for throwing the ball away like Howard did?

Dwight Howard received a technical foul for that toss.

twocentsworth Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:35am

Dwight - thank you for being an idiot and getting your 18th T of the season & getting suspended for your next game.

signed,
Chicago Bulls

P.S. We think you're just scared to play us...:)

Victor74 Fri Apr 08, 2011 01:25pm

The technical was well deserved and any other NBA official would have called it rightfully so. I would have called it. He was pouting and whining like a child. He says he understands and is going to work on not getting technicals and yet does things to get himself technicals. He is either a hypocrit or a liar. And how does it take ten seconds to put up an awful looking free throw? This isn't just fun and games Dwight. This is your career, your profession. I understand it is the game of basketball, but try to make it appear you take it seriously. Unless you don't want to win a Championship and just want to entertain people on the court.

Jurassic Referee Fri Apr 08, 2011 01:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor74 (Post 748085)
He is either a hypocrit or a liar.

Naw, he's just one of today's average NBE players. No better, no worse. And that's just one of the reasons imo the league is not worth watching anymore.

JMO

Mark Padgett Fri Apr 08, 2011 02:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 748090)
And that's just one of the reasons imo the league is not worth watching anymore.

But I watched parts of two games this past week and saw a carry called in one and traveling called twice in the other! Something weird is going on. :eek:

twocentsworth Fri Apr 08, 2011 07:39pm

you guys should watch more NBA games...it's where the best players inthe world play and best officials in the world work.

APG Fri Apr 08, 2011 07:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 748180)
you guys should watch more NBA games...it's where the best players inthe world play and best officials in the world work.

Don't even try...a lot of people here don't like the NBA game (as is their right) as they feel it's all "entertainment" to them. Some on here even go so far as to call it the WWE (by calling it NBE).

Bad Zebra Sat Apr 09, 2011 06:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaTerp (Post 747877)
On the one on Christmas Day, I think it was like 15 seconds and he didnt even look like he was thinking about starting his shooting motion.

I was at the Christmas day game. It was more like a full twelve. Bob Delaney rung him up. He had bounced the ball twice and wasn't even starting his motion.

How dumb do ya have to be to get rung up THREE TIMES for that violation in the same season?

Bad Zebra Sat Apr 09, 2011 06:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 748180)
you guys should watch more NBA games...it's where the best players inthe world play

Maybe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 748180)
...and best officials in the world work.

Nope.

JugglingReferee Sat Apr 09, 2011 08:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 748182)
Don't even try...a lot of people here don't like the NBA game (as is their right) as they feel it's all "entertainment" to them. Some on here even go so far as to call it the WWE (by calling it NBE).

I've always thought of the NBE as the NB A-E.... a combination of the A and the E. If it was fully like the E in WWE, then Donaghy was right! :D

APG Sat Apr 09, 2011 08:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 748321)
I've always thought of the NBE as the NB A-E.... a combination of the A and the E. If it was fully like the E in WWE, then Donaghy was right! :D

Cool? :confused:

grunewar Sat Apr 09, 2011 09:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 748180)
you guys should watch more NBA games...it's where the best players inthe world play and best officials in the world work.

At least he got in his "two cents worth." ;)

PS - I have Tix to the Hawks and Wizards tonight in the ole "phone booth" in DC - lower section. They're practically giving the Tix away......for obvious reasons. :rolleyes:

twocentsworth Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 748310)
Maybe.



Nope.

ok..you hoooked me...where do you think the world's best basketball players play? what league do the world's best basketball officials work?

BillyMac Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:20am

Finger Lickin' Good ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 748321)
I've always thought of the NBE ...

On a side note, World Wrestling Entertainment will no longer be known World Wrestling Entertainment, and will no longer use the acronym WWE. It will simply be known as WWE from now on, with the letters WWE not standing for anything in particular.

Didn't Kentucky Fried Chicken do this several years ago?

WWE News: WWE Planning Name Change; Wrestling to Be Removed from Name | Bleacher Report

Jurassic Referee Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 748345)
On a side note, World Wrestling Entertainment will no longer be known World Wrestling Entertainment, and will no longer use the acronym WWE. It will simply be known as WWE from now on, with the letters WWE not standing for anything in particular.

Didn't Kentucky Fried Chicken do this several years ago?

WWE News: WWE Planning Name Change; Wrestling to Be Removed from Name | Bleacher Report

On another sidenote, that was posted on April 1st. :)

BillyMac Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:45am

Live, From Connecticut, It's Saturday Afternoon ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 748359)
On another sidenote, that was posted on April 1st.

I didn't believe it back then. I thought it was an April Fool's Day Joke.

Did you hear about the FIBA official, from Norway, who is only three feet, four inches (1.016 meters) tall? His name is Loof Lirpa.

APG Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 748359)
On another sidenote, that was posted on April 1st. :)

On another side note to the side note, April 1st or not, it's actually true. ;)

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Jurassic Referee Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 748364)
Did you hear about the FIBA official, from Norway, who is only three feet, four inches (1.016 meters) tall? His name is Loof Lirpa.

Is he an Oompa Loompa?

If so, let the record show that I've been a proud member of PETOL for many, many years. I joined to support both Chuck Elias and RockyRoad from further exploitation.

PETOL - People for the Ethical Treatment of Oompa Loompas

It's true, it's true.....

BillyMac Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:07pm

Even Wore His Uniform Backwards ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 748364)
His name is Loof Lirpa.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 748368)
Is he an Oompa Loompa?

No, but he did everything backwards.

It's true, it's true.....

grunewar Sat Apr 09, 2011 09:25pm

Hawks vs Wizards Action
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 748095)
But I watched parts of two games this past week and saw a carry called in one and traveling called twice in the other! Something weird is going on. :eek:

- Six travels were called in the game. SIX! Two in the first five minutes. Remarkable. Andre Blatche's was the best as they showed his "fancy footwork" on the jumbotron screen. He got the ball on the perimeter and established his rt foot as the pivot......and then moved it twice. TWEET!
- There was actually a three second call late in the third quarter. The lady next to me called it before the ref actually blew the whistle! Funny.
- Actually had a jump ball with 1.13 left in the game.
- Whack! Flip Saunders got T'd protesting a non-foul call in the first quarter.
- I don't know what a charge or block is in the NBA.
- For one night the Wizards actually had a good game. They shot 54% in the first half and won by 32!
- John Wall can play!

I had a good time.

twocentsworth Mon Apr 11, 2011 08:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 748478)
- Six travels were called in the game. SIX! Two in the first five minutes. Remarkable. Andre Blatche's was the best as they showed his "fancy footwork" on the jumbotron screen. He got the ball on the perimeter and established his rt foot as the pivot......and then moved it twice. TWEET!
- There was actually a three second call late in the third quarter. The lady next to me called it before the ref actually blew the whistle! Funny.
- Actually had a jump ball with 1.13 left in the game.
- Whack! Flip Saunders got T'd protesting a non-foul call in the first quarter.
- I don't know what a charge or block is in the NBA.
- For one night the Wizards actually had a good game. They shot 54% in the first half and won by 32!
- John Wall can play!

I had a good time.

interesting post..."somewhat" similar to high school games I see:

- There were six traveling calls that the officials got wrong. SIX! Remarkable. Too bad they can't show A1's "legal footwork" on a jumbotron. He caught the ball, established his left foot as his pivot foot...jab stepped to the right, then used his right foot to cross over to his left to beat his defender...TWEET!
- Despite a single player not knowing how to post up, there were several 3 second calls made. Each time, the opposing coach was yelling "3 seconds! 3 seconds! 3 seconds!" before the official blew the whistle! Funny.
- Tons of jump balls were called. Every time a defender put his hand on the ball, an official called a jump ball. Players were surprised each time because they simply played through it to continue their shot or pass.
- Several T's in the game for comments like: "that's not a foul!"; "if you saw it why won't you call it?"; and "just be consistent!".
- High school officials don't know what a charge is. 98% of the block/charge plays are called a block.
- For one night, HS kids actually had a good game. Each team shot higher than 31% and had fewer than 20 turnovers.

I had a good time.

just another ref Mon Apr 11, 2011 08:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 748928)
High school officials don't know what a charge is. 98% of the block/charge plays are called a block.


This is a pretty broad statement, isn't it? So, should it be more like 50/50, or what?

grunewar Mon Apr 11, 2011 08:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 748928)
- High school officials don't know what a charge is. 98% of the block/charge plays are called a block.

I won't go that high.

But, I would agree, from my location on the court and in the stands, and from my angle, I believe we call too many blocks too.

Raymond Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 748928)
...- High school officials don't know what a charge is. 98% of the block/charge plays are called a block.
...

On what planet? :rolleyes:

Jurassic Referee Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 749011)
On what planet? :rolleyes:

Great question in Norman Chad's column in the Washington Post today. It went something like...

"If Lebron James were involved in a single car accident, would Dick Bavetta whistle the tree for a blocking foul?"

:D

grunewar Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:51am

Was his mom around?
 
Nice! :p

BillyMac Mon Apr 11, 2011 05:52pm

Strange Bedfellows ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 749015)
"If Lebron James were involved in a single car accident, would Dick Bavetta whistle the tree for a blocking foul".

I really didn't understand it, but I recently heard on the radio that, somehow, Lebron James, the Boston Red Sox, and the Liverpool Football Club, are sleeping together. I don't believe it either, but it's true, it's true. Kind of reminds me about a priest, a minister, and a rabbi that walk into a bar.

Mark Padgett Mon Apr 11, 2011 06:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 748342)
ok..you hoooked me...where do you think the world's best basketball players play? what league do the world's best basketball officials work?

The world's best basketball players play in my video game system and the world's best basketball officials work in my driveway.


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