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Throw-In Location After a Time-Out
I worked a youth tournament today, where I had to bust a myth by the coach.
A-1 is dribbling in the backcourt unguarded. Coach A tells me that as soon as she crosses the division line, he wants a time-out. Odd request, I'm thinking. However, just before she crosses the line, she high-tails it to the basket, giving me no time to look back at the coach, and she draws a foul. The coach didn't want the time-out by then. So far, so good. He later asks me that, in order get the throw-in at the divsion line after a time out, must his play cross the division line before the T-O request? Of course, I tell him "no," and explain the whole "closest spot" bit. It's pretty simple, really. My question is this: Is there a rule set somewhere that could have contributed to this myth? |
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If defensive kicks the ball or causes ball to go OOB or creates a held ball then Team A would get unexpired portion of backcourt count or 5 seconds, whichever is more, but not the full 10. |
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This is the same reason I disagree with the rule about not granting a time-out when an airborne player is heading out of bounds. If they want to burn a time-out to save a possession, why should it matter if they are airborne or not? It just makes no sense, and it's inconsistent with the rest of the rules. |
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IDK why they (wreck coaches/players) think the advance throwin spot is midcourt, its the 28' line. |
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And I doubt most coaches even know there's a 28' foot mark on the court much less know it's purpose (it's irreverent for the most part in NFHS). |
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Midcourt/Forecourt "Dinosaur" Line ???
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Gotcha, thanks APG!
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Rule reference or mechanic reference? I've always treated this as if it went OOB behind the basket. The violation isn't where it was shot, and it's not on the sideline. It's the basket support itself and thus the throw-in spot is at either lane line on the end line. Same as an offensive FT violation. |
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I think the ability to call a time-out to avoid a 10 second backcourt violation is a huge advantage. Not only avoids the violation but also gives them another 10 seconds of game clock to get the ball across. At least I'm proposing they get 5 seconds if the count gets to 6,7,8, or 9. It's not like I'm saying they only should get 1 second after the timeout. And before you go there it's not the same as avoiding a throw-in violation because when the throw-in resumes the clock will not be running. |
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That is because the violation has already occurred, not that it is maybe about to occur. |
I think the NBA rule would be applicable if we had a shot clock. All this rule would do at the HS level is cause problems as the official would have to explain how much time is left on the 10 second count. I would not like that kind of rule at the HS level at all for this very reason. Maybe if there was a shot clock then we could have a reference point, but all it takes is a coach not being aware of the time and more issues over when it started or stopped would be at issue. Keep the rule the same.
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The NBA rule says a team can not be in continuous possession of the ball in the backcourt for 8 seconds. The count starts when the ball is legally touched inbounds. Team possession is defined as holding, dribbling or passing the ball and ends when the other team gains possession of the ball or a field goal attempt strikes the rim. |
If they did change the rule it would not be the first time there is a rule I think is silly. But I would have to deal with it like I deal with those other rules.
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