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devdog69 Thu Dec 12, 2002 11:32am

None in Kansas, don't really see it happening anytime soon either. To mention to schools the cost with the budgets being cut right now, they are not going to allow it.

ChuckElias Thu Dec 12, 2002 12:15pm

We use the shot clock in Massachusetts

gsf23 Thu Dec 12, 2002 12:54pm

North Dakota has a shot clock in Class A, but not in Class B.

BigJoe Thu Dec 12, 2002 05:09pm

No shot clock in Minnesota. I don't foresee it in the future. The schools won't even think about going to three officials because of the cost. Haven't seen a team with the discipline to hold the ball for much more than a minute in the past couple of years. The kids are all toeing the three point line itching to pull the trigger. A small openining and they are all hoisting them up!

AK ref SE Thu Dec 12, 2002 05:20pm

No Shot Clock in Alaska!

mpeterson_1 Thu Dec 12, 2002 05:58pm

None in PA either!

DownTownTonyBrown Thu Dec 12, 2002 06:04pm

No shot clock in Idaho. We have been trying for 3-man - our association even offered to raise the funding and pay for the 3rd official... coaches/Athletic board wouldn't go for it. Too bad!

We use a spud sack rather than a peach basket.

4 Sport Official Tue Dec 17, 2002 02:11pm

I retract my previous statement
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
It is true that there is no shot clock for the boys or girls in Nevada HS basketball. That is statewide. It will take a state playoff game where one team holds the ball for half of the game before they will change this. BTW how did you know this?
PS When I was in MD we did have a shot clock in girls games.

Nevadaref,
After seeing the responses in this thread, and in your other thread, regarding the use of the shot clock in the other states of the Union, I apologize. I was under the mistaken ASSumption, that the majority of the states used the shot clock. I really should know better. I usually am good about not making assumptions, however, my habit of making sweeping generalizations sometimes gets me in trouble.

BTW, I knew that at least portions of Nevada do not use the shot clock, because I officiate in Northern California, and sometimes near the border, so occasionally I am working a game with a visiting team from Nevada that seems shocked that we use a shot clock.

Nevadaref Wed Dec 18, 2002 02:06am

Re: I retract my previous statement
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 4 Sport Official
Quote:

BTW, I knew that at least portions of Nevada do not use the shot clock, because I officiate in Northern California, and sometimes near the border, so occasionally I am working a game with a visiting team from Nevada that seems shocked that we use a shot clock.
Yes, it seems that only a handful of states do use a shot clock. What shocks me is that you guys do all your games with 2-man crews.
Also, I occasionally have games with California teams (tomorrow night I have Napa and Lassen) as Nevada is a very popular tournament site due to the parents desire to gamble. I make a point of telling these teams that since there is no shot clock here, there will be a 10-second count in the backcourt and that, unlike California rules, they can be called for a 5-second violation in the frontcourt while dribbling. This always draws looks of astonishment from the players and coaches.
I think that it is smart to know the rules of your neighboring states/areas so that you are aware of potential problems/misunderstandings that could occur with visiting teams.

4 Sport Official Wed Dec 18, 2002 01:09pm

Yes,
My association did have three officials for some of the larger, league games, during the regular season last year, but we have discontinued this practice, this year. I am not sure if it was because of the schools, and budget issues, or if it was decided by our section, but this year, we will only have two officials, on each game, until the playoffs.

I would also be interested to see if any other states use any similar rule variations between the boys and girls' games.

Boys - all counts
35 second shot clock

Girls - No 10 second backourt count
No 5 second count while dribbling
30 second shot clock

bainsey Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by klancie (Post 63117)
How many states have a HS shot clock?

I believe it's only eight.

As for three-second violations, check local listings. In my neck of the woods, we enforce more of a literal translation of the rule. Still, if I see a post player in the lane for three seconds, and I see a genuine attempt to get out of the lane -- which is usually the case -- I will hold my whistle. And getting out means getting out -- both feet outside the lane.

APG Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:16pm

You're about 9 years too late bainsey ;)

JRutledge Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 837814)
You're about 9 years too late bainsey ;)

LOL!!! It happens to the best of us.

Peace

bainsey Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 837814)
You're about 9 years too late bainsey ;)

Sounds like my officiating career!

That's what I get for checking in on vacation and trying to play catch-up, not to mention posting from Grunewar's neck of the woods -- talk about being out of position!


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