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kmcanerney Wed Nov 27, 2002 12:15pm

Just trying to find if a hard cast on the hand, covered with padding is legal for competition in High Shcool ball?
thanks

stripes Wed Nov 27, 2002 12:19pm

No. The "cast" must be pliable. Any hard cast on the hand is illegal no matter how it is padded.

BktBallRef Wed Nov 27, 2002 01:19pm

Quote:

Originally posted by kmcanerney
Just trying to find if a hard cast on the hand, covered with padding is legal for competition in High Shcool ball?
thanks

Only in football. Never in basketball.

AK ref SE Wed Nov 27, 2002 01:55pm

Stripes-

Even certain types of pliable are illegal Rule 3-5-1
illegal items include a guard, cast or brace made of hard and unyielding leather, plaster, PLIABLE (soft) plastic, metal or any other hard substance- even though covered with soft padding- when worn on the elbow, hand, finger, wrist, or forearm.

So pliable, would that mean rubber, cloth, foam?

AK ref SE

pank Thu Nov 28, 2002 12:30am

We just had our rules meeting from state coordinator. He too noted that no cast or brace that has anything hard (or even pliable) is admissable--period!

He said basketball suffers because the kid has been able to wrap his cast during football so mom and dad expect son should be able to do it in basketball too. Sorry.


BktBallRef Thu Nov 28, 2002 02:36am

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Originally posted by pank
We just had our rules meeting from state coordinator. He too noted that no cast or brace that has anything hard (or even pliable) is admissable--period!
I'm afraid he was mistaken. That's only true on the elbow, hand, finger, wrist or forearm. A hard brace can be legally worn on the leg if padded properly.

Nevadaref Thu Nov 28, 2002 02:59am

BktBallRef is right.
If a kid wishes to play with a hard cast on his leg or a hard brace on his knee, he is allowed to, if it is properly padded and does not create a safety issue.

devdog69 Thu Nov 28, 2002 10:19am

Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
BktBallRef is right.
If a kid wishes to play with a hard cast on his leg or a hard brace on his knee, he is allowed to, if it is properly padded and does not create a safety issue.

And whether it is properly padded and does not create a safety issue is " the referee's discretion". The only thing wrong with that is Tuesday night Joe Blow didn't give a crud so he didn't mention it, and now it's Friday night and Roger Rulebook makes an issue out of it, it causes some inconsistency among crews, but I guess nothing is perfect.

Kelvin green Thu Nov 28, 2002 07:50pm

I'll throw in my two cents.

If there is any question we should not allow it.

Ignoring a safety issue particularly something as obvious as a hard cast would clearly be gross negligence. You arent going to be able to defend that come lawsuit time. make sure that hard brace is not a safety problem.

BktBallRef Thu Nov 28, 2002 08:13pm

I've never seen a player play, or even attempt to play with a leg cast. The rule is more designed for knee and ankle braces.

pank Thu Nov 28, 2002 11:38pm

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I'm afraid he was mistaken. That's only true on the elbow, hand, finger, wrist or forearm. A hard brace can be legally worn on the leg if padded properly.
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Point well made. I got tunnel vision talking about the hand.

DownTownTonyBrown Sat Nov 30, 2002 12:59am

CLUB
 
Swinging around a two pound club at the end of your arm could have some severe consequences for the clubee! Padded or not.


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